best chess strategy learned from Lasker

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27th August 2009, 04:59pm
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by demetrios18
new york United States
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   Awesome game I won using Lasker strategy and psychology

29th August 2009, 04:17am
#2
by Dubious
Northampton United Kingdom
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I think 2.Bxg6 is stronger

29th August 2009, 11:41am
#3
by demetrios18
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29th August 2009, 12:07pm
#4
by Lord-Chaos
Devon England
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PLEAES NO NOT AGAIN. this is completely unforced and wrong. in your last diagram, 3. Kg8 lasts much much longer, the game continues.

29th August 2009, 12:09pm
#5
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
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Dubious wrote:

 

I think 2.Bxg6 is stronger


Yes, and in the original puzzle if Black plays 2...Qf4 immediately White can keep an initiative but has no "win"

The move initially found by dubious does win I think, and fairly quickly. Kg8 is no real defense: (hmm, I think 6.Re1 might be an improvement for white in the diagram below, which is accidentally a puzzle, didn't mean to make it one)

29th August 2009, 12:29pm
#6
by daxelson
United States
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So, demetrios, you're trying again . . . and already two different people have shown flaws in your puzzle. Dubious points out that you made the weak move Bf3, when Bxg6+ leads to a forced mate (or black loses significant material), and JG27Pyth points out that your opponent played poorly in the actual game.

i think a GM would defend like this which leads to a longer loss.

Demetrios, you have no clue - and I mean absolutely NONE - how grandmasters play.

29th August 2009, 12:40pm
#7
by goldendog
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But I thought he was the GM killer lol!

29th August 2009, 01:22pm
#8
by Lord-Chaos
Devon England
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demetrios... daxelson, don't bother. he'll keep thinking he's really good, and "Lasker inspired". no... just. leave this post at once.

29th August 2009, 01:50pm
#9
by daxelson
United States
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Lord-Chaos wrote:

demetrios... daxelson, don't bother. he'll keep thinking he's really good, and "Lasker inspired". no... just. leave this post at once.


Sigh. I suppose you're right Lord-Chaos. But here's the value he DOES bring. You know his analysis will be weak, so when he presents a puzzle, the challenge is to find the flaws.

29th August 2009, 01:52pm
#10
by Lord-Chaos
Devon England
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lol. thats a no thanks to me.

29th August 2009, 02:16pm
#11
by Dubious
Northampton United Kingdom
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JG27Pyth wrote:
Dubious wrote:

 

I think 2.Bxg6 is stronger


Yes, and in the original puzzle if Black plays 2...Qf4 immediately White can keep an initiative but has no "win"

The move initially found by dubious does win I think, and fairly quickly. Kg8 is no real defense: (hmm, I think 6.Re1 might be an improvement for white in the diagram below, which is accidentally a puzzle, didn't mean to make it one)

 


Yeah missed that, 6.Re1+ is a much simpler win that 6.f7+..

29th August 2009, 02:19pm
#12
by Lord-Chaos
Devon England
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nah dubious, Re1+ and use the rook to make the mate one move longer. and Qg8+ Qf8 Qxf8 Kd7 Qe8 Kd6 Qe6# makes that 2 moves longer.

So thats 3 moves longer in total =D. lol.

29th August 2009, 04:46pm
#13
by demetrios18
new york United States
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well, well , well, we all agree that white has a winning position and mating threat that cant be stopped in 5 different variations posted on here. Dubious has posted another method that wins great. Looks like me and Dubious have similar thinking and perhaps the best opening and finishing game ever seen.

Dubious please post some fantastic puzzles and games that you played. I already watched one ;)  you are a good player just like me ; )

29th August 2009, 07:31pm
#14
by daxelson
United States
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demetrios18 wrote:

well, well , well, we all agree that white has a winning position and mating threat that cant be stopped in 5 different variations posted on here. Dubious has posted another method that wins great. Looks like me and Dubious have similar thinking and perhaps the best opening and finishing game ever seen.


Uhhh, not exactly what we all agree on, demetrios.

What we agree on is that white had a winning line, but that YOU failed to find it during the game. The line that you played was inferior, and would have allowed Black to fight his way out - except that your opponent gave you the game.

Dubious, on the other hand, found the winning line, and didn't make the mistake that you made. He would have won the game - even against a grandmaster.  You would not have.

And that's what we all agree on.

29th August 2009, 08:37pm
#15
by goldendog
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I think we can all agree on what Dimmie is.

29th August 2009, 08:51pm
#16
by demetrios18
new york United States
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daxelson wrote:
demetrios18 wrote:

well, well , well, we all agree that white has a winning position and mating threat that cant be stopped in 5 different variations posted on here. Dubious has posted another method that wins great. Looks like me and Dubious have similar thinking and perhaps the best opening and finishing game ever seen.


Uhhh, not exactly what we all agree on, demetrios.

What we agree on is that white had a winning line, but that YOU failed to find it during the game. The line that you played was inferior, and would have allowed Black to fight his way out - except that your opponent gave you the game.

Dubious, on the other hand, found the winning line, and didn't make the mistake that you made. He would have won the game - even against a grandmaster.  You would not have.

And that's what we all agree on.


 First of all the creator is never wrong, secondly you are jealous because you cannot post better puzzles ( plural - more than one) than I have. Secondly there were many solutions to this problem which were all correct. Daxelson dont be jealous because me and Dubious are better players than you

29th August 2009, 10:38pm
#17
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
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Member Points: 1484
Dubious wrote:
JG27Pyth wrote:
Dubious wrote:

 

I think 2.Bxg6 is stronger


Yes, and in the original puzzle if Black plays 2...Qf4 immediately White can keep an initiative but has no "win"

The move initially found by dubious does win I think, and fairly quickly. Kg8 is no real defense: (hmm, I think 6.Re1 might be an improvement for white in the diagram below, which is accidentally a puzzle, didn't mean to make it one)

 


Yeah missed that, 6.Re1+ is a much simpler win that 6.f7+..


Actually, I meant the line below


 demetrios wrote: First of all the creator is never wrong, secondly you are jealous because you cannot post better puzzles ( plural - more than one) than I have. Secondly there were many solutions to this problem which were all correct. Daxelson dont be jealous because me and Dubious are better players than you...

demetrios -- Your puzzle was no puzzle at all, it was weak move vs. weak move...  you can call that Lasker-like GM chess if it makes you happy but the rest of us call it a flawed puzzle, or for short, "wrong" ... as usual you have a comically inflated sense of your ability and achievement. Like mine and that of the rest of the untitled players on chess.com, your chess is mediocre -- no one is jealous of it, we spend our jealous-time admiring the quality of play of people who are actually good.




29th August 2009, 11:35pm
#18
by JG27Pyth
NYC United States
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anywhoo why were we looking at demetrios' ridiculous "I think a GM would defend like this variation?" --  Dubious' original fxg6 line is the one that should be examined.

30th August 2009, 12:31am
#19
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
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Member Points: 5394
@JG27Pyth - I looked at this a little bit but if black goes with 6...Qxh5+ then I like the queen trade off with 7. Qxh5+ 7. Rh3 does win for white, but with 7. Qxh5+ white can promote.

30th August 2009, 12:46am
#20
by kunduk
kolkata India
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 871

nice, but there were various ways..!

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