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Beware the Fried Liver.


  • 23 months ago · Quote · #1

    yuendat



  • 23 months ago · Quote · #2

    knightofcrashtest

    Good.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #3

    Rubidium

    There is also 5...b5!? leading to very interesting play. White will have the harder time of it if he is unprepared.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #5

    Rubidium

    That's interesting: in Chessgames.com black has a large 50%! win with the line. Can you show me some examples?

    Thanks for the warning.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #6

    xitvono

    sometimes I have played the b5 line. There are many variations where white gets crushed, best play leads to some advantage for white.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #7

    Killachessguy

    Black plays very poor, I think his main mistake was sitting down to play this game In the first place, but why on earth play 7..kg8?? In fact why play 5...Nxd5??

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #9

    Rubidium

    Thanks! I'll look into it. 

    This is a puzzle similar to the mating pattern:



  • 23 months ago · Quote · #10

    OldHastonian

    pfren wrote:

    @ Rubidium: It's rather a long story.

    Suffice to say that the variation 6.Bf1 Nd4 7.c3 Nxd5 8.cd4! Qxg5 9.Bxb5+ Kd8 10.Qf3 is bad for Black, for very concrete reasons.

    After 6.Bf1, my instinct would be to play ...Nxd5; isn't that sound?

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #11

    PJAJ4321

    I once did the Fried liver, but then I stopped because it became too risky, and people were blocking it more frequently.Frown

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #12

    PJAJ4321

    The king should've went back to e8.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #13

    Rubidium

    pfren wrote:

    @ Rubidium: It's rather a long story.

    Suffice to say that the variation 6.Bf1 Nd4 7.c3 Nxd5 8.cd4! Qxg5 9.Bxb5+ Kd8 10.Qf3 is bad for Black, for very concrete reasons.

    It does look worse for black, the pin on the knight, and white's attack is already strong with light squared power! In one game, Robert Burger played Bb7 against Fischer, and won!

    I think 0-0 was a poor choice though. All of black's active pieces are against the kingside, so castle into it! 

    I think Nc3 would be a very fun-to-play continuation-if not the best. 

    Nxc3 Qxb7 Nxb5!?/? Looks very sharp, But white can maintain material goodies by Qxa8/ Qf3

    Or Nc3 Nb4 Qxb7 Nc2 Kd1 And white is winning.

    That is my analysis, so I might have made some pretty bad mistakes.

    Here is some fried liver evil: Game a la Morphy:

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #14

    Rubidium

    Grousey wrote:
    pfren wrote:

    @ Rubidium: It's rather a long story.

    Suffice to say that the variation 6.Bf1 Nd4 7.c3 Nxd5 8.cd4! Qxg5 9.Bxb5+ Kd8 10.Qf3 is bad for Black, for very concrete reasons.

    After 6.Bf1, my instinct would be to play ...Nxd5; isn't that sound?



  • 23 months ago · Quote · #15

    Rubidium

    whatupyodog2-5 wrote:

    Here is a better puzzle.

     

    Yeah, right. And I have a bridge to sell to you.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #16

    Rubidium

    Franken_Berry wrote:

    Wonderful puzzle! A chance to show off your tactical brilliance!

    Morphy's games are just brilliant, making him roughly equal with Capablanca in my perspective.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #17

    Rubidium

    Sorry for the misunderstanding, then.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #18

    Conquistador

    pfren wrote:

    @ Rubidium: It's rather a long story.

    Suffice to say that the variation 6.Bf1 Nd4 7.c3 Nxd5 8.cd4! Qxg5 9.Bxb5+ Kd8 10.Qf3 is bad for Black, for very concrete reasons.

    From what I read on chesspub, an even stronger move is 10.0-0 after which black doesn't have any answers.  I forgot what happened to the thread.  I will see if I can find it.

  • 23 months ago · Quote · #19

    PatriotScout

    That was just terrible.


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