Classic "book" checkmate

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31st December 2007, 09:42am
#1
by Fromper
Boynton Beach, FL United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 357

In studying tactics, I'm going through Murray Chandler's "How to Beat Your Dad at Chess" for about the 15th time, just to make sure I can still recognize the patterns and calculate out the solutions several moves deep (some of which are 10 moves long). Don't let the silly title fool you - this is a GREAT book on typical attacking/mating patterns.

 

Anyway, I came across this relatively easy puzzle in that book, and I know the solution to it, but I was trying to make sure it works against every possible defense. I came up with a defense that the author doesn't mention. It's a better defense for black, but I'm pretty sure it still allows white to mate in a couple more moves. See what you think:

 --Fromper


31st December 2007, 09:45pm
#2
by demuxer
Guatemala Guatemala
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 433
thats easy, is hard to keep your bishop at f4 with that free diagonal
5th January 2008, 09:39pm
#3
by The_Knight_Master
Washington United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 158
not forced
5th January 2008, 10:17pm
#4
by a_geldiyev
Turkmenistan
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 126
not forced but White gain at least a pawn
5th January 2008, 11:47pm
#5
by NM GreenLaser
Chester, NY United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 720
1.Qa6 Nb6 2.Qxa7 Nfd7 3.Ba6 is Fromper's line. Now 3...Nc5 prevents mate but 4.dxc5 bxa6 5.Qb8+ Kd7 6.Qxb6 Qxc5 7.Ne5+ Ke8 8.Qxc6+ wins. 3.Ba6 was right and better than Na4, a4, or Ne5. Sometimes writers omit weak lines, even if they do not lose as badly as what they show.
22nd January 2008, 11:20pm
#6
by Jaguarphd
California United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 89

Easy...two move mate

QE2xA6

PB7xA6 

BF1xA6

 

This is my first time writing algebric notation so if I messed up...correct me 


22nd January 2008, 11:58pm
#7
by silentfilmstar13
Medford, OR United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2080
Jaguarphd wrote:

Easy...two move mate

QE2xA6 

PB7xA6 

BF1xA6

 

This is my first time writing algebric notation so if I messed up...correct me 


You must not use capital letters for the names of the squares.  Those are reserved for the pieces.  Also, instead of using "P" to define a pawn, don't use anything.  The lack of a piece definer indicates that it is a pawn.  Only use "x" to note a capture.  You should number the moves, as well.  Here is what your notation should look like:

1.Qa6  bxa6

2.Bxa6#

Note: You may use either "#" or "++" to indicate checkmate.

23rd January 2008, 12:13am
#8
by Soulcrates
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 128
GreenLaser wrote: 1.Qa6 Nb6 2.Qxa7 Nfd7 3.Ba6 is Fromper's line. Now 3...Nc5 prevents mate but 4.dxc5 bxa6 5.Qb8+ Kd7 6.Qxb6 Qxc5 7.Ne5+ Ke8 8.Qxc6+ wins. 3.Ba6 was right and better than Na4, a4, or Ne5. Sometimes writers omit weak lines, even if they do not lose as badly as what they show.

 I'd like to see that in a puzzle.  Sounds very informative, but I'm really not good at following letters.  I'm more of a visual learner.


23rd January 2008, 12:26am
#9
by silentfilmstar13
Medford, OR United States
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 2080
Soulcrates wrote: GreenLaser wrote: 1.Qa6 Nb6 2.Qxa7 Nfd7 3.Ba6 is Fromper's line. Now 3...Nc5 prevents mate but 4.dxc5 bxa6 5.Qb8+ Kd7 6.Qxb6 Qxc5 7.Ne5+ Ke8 8.Qxc6+ wins. 3.Ba6 was right and better than Na4, a4, or Ne5. Sometimes writers omit weak lines, even if they do not lose as badly as what they show.

 I'd like to see that in a puzzle.  Sounds very informative, but I'm really not good at following letters.  I'm more of a visual learner.


Put it in a puzzle, then.

 

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