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4th January 2008, 03:25am
#1
by camdawg7
Newcastle United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 186

we've all been in this position before.  what do you do?

4th January 2008, 03:26am
#2
by camdawg7
Newcastle United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 186
i can't tell you how many times my opponent put me into a situation just like this.  well heres the answer!
5th January 2008, 09:33pm
#3
by The_Knight_Master
Washington United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 152

Hey, everyone looking at this puzzle, or the one chessmaster made up, STOP POSTING NONSENSE!

5th January 2008, 09:39pm
#4
by glubsch
Saratoga, CA United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 36
The_Knight_Master, there is some merit to this puzzle. It's just one example of how you might be able to get to a draw instead of losing your game. Oops, did I reveal the solution??? Sealed
5th January 2008, 10:23pm
#5
by a_geldiyev
Turkmenistan
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 126
interesting
5th January 2008, 11:30pm
#6
by NinjaBear
Salt Lake City (USA) China
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 277

It's not nonsense if there's something to learn from this (or review). Even though the position is not possible in "standard chess", it is still nevertheless a position.

6th January 2008, 12:23am
#7
by jmg
Madrid Spain
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 23

The move is Qxe7+, and then is a draw.

Can I see the game? It looks difficult to arrive to this position.

6th January 2008, 01:03am
#8
by Rishnai
Denver United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 48
I thought this was a glitch at first... How come with only ONE queen and her king as opposition, black hasn't won yet? They obviously have superior numbers.
6th January 2008, 02:00am
#9
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1204
This position tends to arise from the MacCutcheon variation of the French defense. I always play this line as black in hopes of reaching this position, but I have never been able to get the 7th rook (which is, of course, paramount to the success of the line). White has the "drawing line" 1.Qxe7+ Bf8xe7, but this tends to lead to chaotic positions and white will then take on considerable considerations on the queenside. Because of this, players usually opt for the docile 1.Qh1. This line has been quoted by GM Azmaiparashvili as the main reason that anyone ever plays anything other than 1...e5.
6th January 2008, 02:22am
#10
by Gompers
Kea'au United States
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 41
you nuke the board with tomato juice!
6th January 2008, 02:36am
#11
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1204
Oh c'mon. Don't be silly.
6th January 2008, 09:06am
#12
by camdawg7
Newcastle United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 186
TonightOnly wrote: This position tends to arise from the MacCutcheon variation of the French defense. I always play this line as black in hopes of reaching this position, but I have never been able to get the 7th rook (which is, of course, paramount to the success of the line). White has the "drawing line" 1.Qxe7+ Bf8xe7, but this tends to lead to chaotic positions and white will then take on considerable considerations on the queenside. Because of this, players usually opt for the docile 1.Qh1. This line has been quoted by GM Azmaiparashvili as the main reason that anyone ever plays anything other than 1...e5.

exactly! -- "considerable considerations..." lol.

6th January 2008, 09:13am
#13
by camdawg7
Newcastle United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 186
jmg wrote:

The move is Qxe7+, and then is a draw.

Can I see the game? It looks difficult to arrive to this position.


this position is often reached when one chess player is playing 5-10 other LIVE games at once and ever so sneekily moves most of the peices all to one board, and so on to the others in order to gain a slight advantage.  It would be considered cheating to add or remove chess pieces to a board unless you put them in the exact same positions that they were in (but on a different board!)

 

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