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Fastest Mate?


  • 22 months ago · Quote · #1

    danjr

    Fastest mate possible for this situation? This one is a little tricky, and requires some out-of-the-box thinking. Try to solve it without looking at the hint.

    Hint (highlight text): Sometimes it helps to look at it from another point of view. The fastest solution is simpler than you think.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #2

    danjr

    This is one of my favorite puzzles... and you will see why when I release the answer. :)

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #3

    DTM99

    Did white initially begin playing on the bottom side or top side?

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #4

    chess_cake

    I just take a quick look of the game. I don't see any quick mates. It seems to me black piece has an edge in a game. The game is not a closed match. It is hard to compete if one side has a rook up with that position. 

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #5

    Timothy_P

    Bottom, promote and win.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #6

    danjr

    Timothy_P wrote:

    Bottom, promote and win.

    This is true. I did not expect someone to solve it this quickly. Congratulations.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #7

    chess_cake

    I am assuming white piece is playing at the top side.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #8

    Timothy_P

    Hey danjr, if you can post on chess.com like that, I can pull the FEN and put in game editor (I did to make sure). Enforcing legal moves or showing board coordinates in the Game Editor (More -> Game Editor) would kind of give it away.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #9

    danjr

    Timothy_P wrote:

    Hey danjr, if you can post on chess.com like that, I can pull the FEN and put in game editor (I did to make sure). Enforcing legal moves or showing board coordinates in the Game Editor (More -> Game Editor) would kind of give it away.

    I never use Game Editor, so I did not realize that. That kind of ruined it, huh?

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #10

    arceus03

    If White started from the bottom, then really Black can promote first and mate White immediately...

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #11

    Timothy_P

    @danjr - No, I've seen too many puzzles using that, en passant, and castling as key moves.

    @arceus03 - it's white to move and I think white wins.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #12

    Timothy_P

    Oh wait - black wins by promoting to a queen on his first move. Not finding a way around that.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #13

    Timothy_P

    It's a trick: Black wins.

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #14

    Timothy_P

    This doesn't look any better for white:
  • 22 months ago · Quote · #15

    arceus03

    Timothy_P wrote:

    Oh wait - black wins by promoting to a queen on his first move. Not finding a way around that.

    Exactly.

    You can even simply promote to a Bishop, if White doesn't move his King :P

  • 22 months ago · Quote · #16

    danjr

    Sorry, I actually meant it to be black to move... I will change that right now.


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