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Forced Mate in 5


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    eXecute

    Forced mate in 5. edit: Loophole found tho, so it's not forced. The below is kept here, but it's not a forced mate in 5 (black has escape), but below that puzzle I put a modified puzzle where it actually works in 5.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    MODIFIED VERSION, ACTUAL MATE IN 5:

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    AnthonyCG

    Nice puzzle. It's quite the swindle.

    These puzzles help you get used to cool sacs.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    Last_Sire03

    nice
  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    eXecute

    THanks!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    sdtmcn

    Nice.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    daxelson

    You may have missed a line:

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    eXecute

    Yes, black can find a draw. I didn't miss the line, I just was showing a situation in which black might not have seen that forced draw. It's not a forced mate, unless you were to cut it off later on. Good job.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    -waller-

    Post #1 says it's definitely not forced.

    Post #2 says it definitely ain't.

    To anyone who is confused, it ISN'T forced.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    dpwivagg

    Also, black can prevent with another line:

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    Shivasubramanian

    @ daxelson, in your variation, it is not 4. Bf3+ but 4.Qf5+ Kh4 (or Kh6) leading to perpetual (but not 4..Rg5 then 5. Qh7#).

    @ dpwivagg, 2....Kh8 immediately loses to 3.Qh7#.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    daxelson

    Shivasubramanian wrote:

    @ daxelson, in your variation, it is not 4. Bf3+ but 4.Qf5+ Kh4 (or Kh6) leading to perpetual (but not 4..Rg5 then 5. Qh7#).

    @ dpwivagg, 2....Kh8 immediately loses to 3.Qh7#.


    The original post represents this a a "Forced mate in 5". The move list shows one alternative line that is flawed/faulty, in that it does not lead to a win by white in 5 - in fact, to judge by the other comments, it winds up being a draw at best. My point was only that the soluion offered for this puzzle is NOT, in fact, a valid solution.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    stanhope13

    fair enough, a little pedantic.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    daxelson

    stanhope13 wrote:

    fair enough, a little pedantic.


    So let me see if I've got this straight. eXecute posts a puzzle, describes it as a "Forced mate in 5". I point out that it is neither forced, nor a mate in 5, nor, in fact, mate at all, and I'm "pedantic"?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    dewriat

    Here is a modded version of your puzzle that patches up the original flaw. 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    eXecute

    Ok I patched my version, I had misplaced the rook in some edit, a while back.

    Now do the puzzle again, this time, there should be no loophole. I edited the original post with a second puzzle. I kept the bad one, due to the many posts regarding that one.

    I apologize for the mistake.


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