Mate in 3

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27th January 2009, 02:56pm
#1
by kungfoodchef
vigrinia United States
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Galier-Hermann

west Germany 1965

27th January 2009, 03:27pm
#2
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
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It is nice, however black can play 1...Rxe7 instead of 1...Nxe7 or black can play 2...Ng6 to avoid the mate in 3.  :)

27th January 2009, 03:37pm
#3
by Tiger-13
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nice one

27th January 2009, 04:08pm
#4
by kungfoodchef
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einstein_69101 wrote:

It is nice, however black can play 1...Rxe7 instead of 1...Nxe7 or black can play 2...Ng6 to avoid the mate in 3.  :)


no because Rxe7 loses the queen so he is still lost

27th January 2009, 04:58pm
#5
by kungfoodchef
vigrinia United States
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cool deflection

27th January 2009, 05:22pm
#6
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
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kungfoodchef wrote:
einstein_69101 wrote:

It is nice, however black can play 1...Rxe7 instead of 1...Nxe7 or black can play 2...Ng6 to avoid the mate in 3.  :)


no because Rxe7 loses the queen so he is still lost


I agree.  :)  But black must give up the queen in order to avoid the mate in 3.  1. Ne7+ Rxe7 2. Rxf2 Ra6 and there is no mate on move 3 for white.  :)

 

In the puzzle I agree that white made the best 3 moves given how black responded, but black did not make the best responses.  'Mate in 3' titles are given to those puzzles that assume the best moves are made by the other side.  :)  Or in other words the other side has no way to avoid mate in 3 moves.  :)  Black can avoid the mate in 3 in this puzzle with the best plays.  :)

27th January 2009, 05:35pm
#7
by cowsreallymoo
Somewhere In The Great United States
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if white avoids mate white still gets queen

27th January 2009, 05:47pm
#8
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
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cowsreallymoo wrote:

if white avoids mate white still gets queen


True.  :)

 

But the title says 'mate in 3'.  The title is incorrect since black can give up the queen.  :)

27th January 2009, 07:49pm
#9
by kungfoodchef
vigrinia United States
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but it is likely that black would not see whites next move and take with the knight because he does not want to lose his queen.

27th January 2009, 11:31pm
#10
by NM tonydal
United States
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That is irrelevant, kungfoodchef.  The stipulation "Mate in 3" is taken to mean that mate is forced in 3 moves, no matter what replies are available to the defender.  This problem really ought to be titled "White to play and win."

28th January 2009, 01:50pm
#11
by vitoman
cali Colombia
Member Since: Jan 2009
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me gusto mucho el problema, pero estoy de acuerdo con tonydal :

I liked the problem, but I agree with tonydal
 

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