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26th May 2008, 05:35am
#1
by BrendanNorman
Sydney Australia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 113

This is a mate in 2.. But I bet most of

you cant solve it :)


26th May 2008, 07:03am
#2
by sesteves86
Porto Portugal
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 303

Is it with 1 b7?


26th May 2008, 07:07am
#3
by OckhamsRazor
Va Bch, VA United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 61

Re4 is basically the meat of this one.

After that, depending on black's response there's a mating move.  If there's a move  for black after Re4 that I've missed where white can't subsequently mate, let me know.  I don't see it.

 

What do I win? ;) 


26th May 2008, 07:25am
#4
by dljaraki
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 89

wow took me 5 seconds (sorry but it was easy) first u do rook e5 then it forces the king into 2 legal moves Kc4 and d4. then u move queen to h4 checkmate. if this is right do i get a trophy

 


26th May 2008, 07:33am
#5
by sesteves86
Porto Portugal
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 303

If Re5 then 1 ... - Kc4 ; 2 Qh4+ - Bg4 or Kb3

@ OckhamsRazor:  1 Re4 - Kxe4


26th May 2008, 07:47am
#6
by ukala_19
İstanbul Turkey
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 6
@dljaraki what about Kb3 then(sorry but too obvious that, that was not the answer)?

My idea is having the Knight to b2 and then checking w/ smth. but I couldn't find what to check with:D

26th May 2008, 07:58am
#7
by HOWDEY
Texas United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 45
dljaraki wrote:

wow took me 5 seconds (sorry but it was easy) first u do rook e5 then it forces the king into 2 legal moves Kc4 and d4. then u move queen to h4 checkmate. if this is right do i get a trophy

 


This is the pattarn that I saw, but from the title it implies that this is wrong.  It is only checkmate if black King chooses d4.  If King chooses to move to c4, then Queen to h4 leaves King to b3 open and a chase is on.  Granted the King is in a small part of the board, but with Rook at e5 Queen at h4 and pawn at d2 and bishop at g7 whites pieces are not in position to get the checkmate any time soon. The Knights are helpful, but also not in the right place.  So king to b3 results in a chase that many different choices, or errors could change the actual outcome.  But played right Black King will loose.  Again however according to the title this pattarn is wrong.


26th May 2008, 08:01am
#8
by LydiaBlonde
Zagreb Croatia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 596
sesteves86 wrote

@ OckhamsRazor:  1 Re4 - Kxe4


  And then 2. Qh1#


26th May 2008, 10:16am
#9
by HOWDEY
Texas United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 45
LydiaBlonde wrote: sesteves86 wrote

@ OckhamsRazor:  1 Re4 - Kxe4


  And then 2. Qh1#


Ahhhh,  I did have it wrong, thanks bunches.


26th May 2008, 12:09pm
#10
by sesteves86
Porto Portugal
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 303

lol ... well seen :) I didn't thought much on that possibility....

and what if 1 Re4 - Bc8?

Black loose material but only receives mate in the 3rd move.


26th May 2008, 12:22pm
#11
by KillaBeez
Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 4250
Then Qc6#
26th May 2008, 12:54pm
#12
by Joy112
Ulaanbaatar Mongolia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1
1. Re4, Kxe4 2. Qh1# - is nice, but what happens if to Re4, black moves her pawn to c4?
26th May 2008, 12:57pm
#13
by sesteves86
Porto Portugal
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 303
2 Rd4 #
26th May 2008, 01:06pm
#14
by PopizzdioJazz
Sisak Croatia
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 18

1. Re4

if king takes the rook, Qh1#

if bishop moves, Qc6# or  Qe6#

if knight moves, Nc3#

if peon moves, Rd4#

took me 6-7 minutes


26th May 2008, 01:10pm
#15
by BrendanNorman
Sydney Australia
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 113
Well done guys! Yeh took me only a few minutes too and one of my pupils even less but the key move is still quite nice!
26th May 2008, 01:15pm
#16
by XremusX
re Romania
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 13

i see a mate in tree

knight b3-c4 ( only good response)

rook  e5+ - king d4 ( only response)

queen d6 mate

cool 


27th May 2008, 01:20am
#17
by sesteves86
Porto Portugal
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 303

Do you mean knight in c3?

1 Nc3+ - Nxc3
2 dxc3 - ....


27th May 2008, 02:04am
#18
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 1521
Very cool. This one turned out to be pretty tricky, with a number of moves to work out. Good thing it was only a mate-in-two. Who was the author?
27th May 2008, 02:48am
#19
by the_chairman
Perth, WA Australia
Member Since: Sep 2007
Member Points: 89
yay i got it.twas possibly luck that it was the second move i considered looking at after i saw what the knights could do. heh took me 34 seconds, go binary clocks! Qh1 Bf8
27th May 2008, 03:18am
#20
by AClotfelter
Colorado Springs United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 40
what is the correct answer? I do not see a forced mate in 2.. I see possible mate in 2, but it depends on black's response
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