Puzzle: rook mate with restriction

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20th July 2008, 03:44am
#1
by cuendillar
Stockholm Sweden
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 823

The aim in this one is to deliver checkmate with the rook moving only once.

20th July 2008, 04:54am
#2
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1872

The rook move is not the first move. The rook move is the 10th move!

You baffled me.

The aim of the puzzle is to checkmate with only one rook move.


20th July 2008, 06:00am
#3
by cuendillar
Stockholm Sweden
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 823

I double-checked the phrasing, it says nothing about the first move being made with the rook. It is mate with the first rook move, that cannot be denied. All whites alternatives either repeat moves or draw immediately.


20th July 2008, 12:27pm
#4
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1872

By all means I am not trying to create a controversy here and offend you in any way.

I have also checked the phrasing twice and you do say and I quote: "the first and only move". Perhaps another way to say it is: the aim in this one is to deliver a checkmate with the rook moving only once! Forget the words "first and only"

Believe you me it is somewhat a perplexing sentence. And once I looked at the solution it was a realy a cute puzzle and I enjoyed looking at your solution, I only wish I had understood your presentation so that I could try to solve it.

You posted this puzzle a number of hours ago and I am the only one that has replied, why don"t you try my wording? Usually chess puzzles are a sure bet to get a lot of members attention.

Take care and the best to you.


20th July 2008, 12:41pm
#5
by NM tonydal
United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 4801

I didn't have a problem with the phrasing, cuendillar.  Even if I'd had, I'm sure I would have been able to grasp your intent easily enough (after all, the position could not conceivably be a mate in 1).  A cute puzzle anyway--similar to (but not nearly so complicated as) the earlier post here about the K + Q ending with the White king nailed to c3.

 


20th July 2008, 02:49pm
#6
by paul211
Ontario Canada
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 1872

Listen, I am french and I am not familiar with the word cuendillar, I did look it up , as my 43 years work was a technical job and I have always been curious to learn something new, but I am not sure that I know what it means. Please do explain, my understanding is that it is an undisctructable substance, please do elaborate.

In any event you are not listening to me, I did say that I enjoyed your puzzle and only proposed that you change you title of your puzzle, and I really like your fighting spirit.

However do take a step back and consider genuinly what I said to you, I do wish you the best.

And if you have no response in the next day or so from other members , do consider my proposal for wording under a new post.

Have a great eveninng and give yourself the opportunity to consider someone"s opinion, wright or wrong.

 


16th December 2008, 06:18am
#7
by darkaquaman
wilmore United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 6

wow you guys definitally come up with some interesting things to bicker and argur about dont you?

16th December 2008, 06:26am
#8
by aidaedalus
Hällefors Sweden
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 2

They definitely do, darkaquaman. Doesn't make any sense though, going on about a, IMHO, perfectly acceptable phrase. But hey, at least they had something to do.

^^

15th January 2009, 11:21am
#9
by DemonicSoldier
Bratislava Slovakia
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 454

Very nice and instructive puzzle!

18th January 2009, 02:41am
#10
by Tiger-13
Sydney Australia
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 1277

that was really really nice! tq for posting

6th February 2009, 10:15am
#11
by Izorshtrich
New York City United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 8

No disrespect.... but the wording is confusing, I agree.

8th February 2009, 11:16am
#12
by cuendillar
Stockholm Sweden
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 823

I'm glad you're pointing it out. To me, it was crystal clear but I know now that it isn't so. I changed it to "the rook moving only once". Thanks for the feedback, although it wasn't of a kind I could possibly have foreseen.

22nd March 2009, 04:22am
#13
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 5398

This is a very nice puzzle.  :)  It was pretty easy for me since someone else has a similiar puzzle and I posted some annotations.  :)

22nd March 2009, 04:24am
#14
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 5398
22nd March 2009, 04:28am
#15
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 5398

Here is a repost of my notes from the other puzzle:

I will give my best shot at explaining this one.  :)  This is a nice puzzle!  :)

 

White wants too keep an odd number of spaces between the white king and the black king when both kings are on the same file (g- or h-file) after white's turn has been completed.

 

When the black king is on the h-file then white may choose to go to the f-file only if there will be an even number of ranks in between kings after white completes the move.


Black has the same goals.  But black wants these situations to occur after black's turn rather than whites.  :)

22nd March 2009, 04:32am
#16
by einstein_69101
Nebraska United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 5398

It is the same puzzle but done on the other side of the board.  :)

 

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