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"Impossible" Puzzle (Part II)


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #21

    haz0rd

    you're right , how about doesn't matter which queen but Qd3, Qb5. Depending on how black reacts, you can do Qb7, Qb8, or Qc6 if he decides to take knight.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #22

    Fralnp

    Sorry for the "crosspost" RetiFan...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #23

    RetiFan

    What about

    1. Nb8+ Bb7 2. Rc8 Bxd5 3. Nc6# or

    1. Nb8+ Bb7 2. Rc8 Kxa7 3. Rxb7#

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #24

    AlCzervik

    Fralnp wrote:

    The nasty problem is that White cannot afford to waste time to prepare checkmate or whatever zugzwang he has in mind since Black has always Be6!, threatening to check with Bxd5+ and no more checkmate in 3 possible. Also the direct Na6+ leaves the a7 bishop unprotected after Bb7 and White is faced again with the "threat" of Bxd5+ with check. This one really a toughie...

    Waste time? This doesn't look like a bullet game. It looks like no game I've seen, and I'm sure that's why it's presented as a puzzle.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #25

    RetiFan

    TMIMITW By waste time he means waste 'tempo' as a chess saying.

    Also I still think my solution is correct: 1. Nb8+ Bb7 2. Rc8 Kxa7 (2. ... Bxd5 or Bc6 3. Nc6#) 3. Rxb7#

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #26

    Fralnp

    RetiFan wrote:

    What about

    1. Nb8+ Bb7 2. Rc8 Bxd5 3. Nc6# or

    1. Nb8+ Bb7 2. Rc8 Kxa7 3. Rxb7#

    Only problem is 1. Nb8+ Bb7 2. Rc8 Bxd5 come with check... Yeah life stinks sometimes...:(-

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #27

    RetiFan

    Aww so closeYell

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #28

    Fralnp

    TMIMITW wrote:
    Fralnp wrote:

    The nasty problem is that White cannot afford to waste time to prepare checkmate or whatever zugzwang he has in mind since Black has always Be6!, threatening to check with Bxd5+ and no more checkmate in 3 possible. Also the direct Na6+ leaves the a7 bishop unprotected after Bb7 and White is faced again with the "threat" of Bxd5+ with check. This one really a toughie...

    Waste time? This doesn't look like a bullet game. It looks like no game I've seen, and I'm sure that's why it's presented as a puzzle.

    Huh... Guess you answered your own question.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #29

    AlCzervik

    Refi, "tempo" is an overused term here. Again, 4 queens! NO chance of losing. Yes, mate in 3 is not easy to see, but, it will still be mate.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #30

    RetiFan

    Also, I'm starting to think that mate in 3 doesn't exist.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #31

    AlCzervik

    Fralnp wrote:
    TMIMITW wrote:
    Fralnp wrote:

    The nasty problem is that White cannot afford to waste time to prepare checkmate or whatever zugzwang he has in mind since Black has always Be6!, threatening to check with Bxd5+ and no more checkmate in 3 possible. Also the direct Na6+ leaves the a7 bishop unprotected after Bb7 and White is faced again with the "threat" of Bxd5+ with check. This one really a toughie...

    Waste time? This doesn't look like a bullet game. It looks like no game I've seen, and I'm sure that's why it's presented as a puzzle.

    Huh... Guess you answered your own question.

    No. I answered yours.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #32

    Fralnp

    Alright! Think I finally got it! 1.Kb2!! and wherever the darn bishop go it seems to be always checkmate in 2.

    If Ba6 or Bb7, then Qg8 followed by Qxc8 mate

    Bd7 2.Na6+ Bc6 3.Bxc6 mate

    Be6 2.Na6+ Bxd5 3.BXd5 mate

    Bf5, Bg4 and Bh3 are answered by Na6 mate.

    So it seems to be a elaborate zugzwang finally...

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #33

    AlCzervik

    It will be mate no matter what. Isn''t that the goal? To win?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #34

    True_Beginner

    It seems that the heat turned up.

    Gentlemen, as you know, puzzle doesn't has to always occur in real games.

    That's puzzle, only to make us find out what the correct moves.

    And now, several tries are still failed.

    The closest one is as what Fralnp said, Kb2!!.

    But it's still fail to Bd7!!!
    I give it one more exclam. mark to show you that it's prevented mate.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #35

    Camilleosky

    Fralnp wrote:

    Alright! Think I finally got it! 1.Kb2!! and wherever the darn bishop go it seems to be always checkmate in 2.

    If Ba6 or Bb7, then Qg8 followed by Qxc8 mate

    Bd7 2.Na6+ Bc6 3.Bxc6 mate

    Be6 2.Na6+ Bxd5 3.BXd5 mate

    Bf5, Bg4 and Bh3 are answered by Na6 mate.

    So it seems to be a elaborate zugzwang finally...

    is that's it?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #36

    hardtounderstand

    That's just stupid puzzle....No one cares as these positions do not occur practically,Don't have to waste time solving it....

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #37

    Here_Is_Plenty

    Im sorry, Im not great at puzzles but what is wrong with Nb5?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #38

    True_Beginner

    hardtounderstand wrote:

    That's just stupid puzzle....No one cares as these positions do not occur practically,Don't have to waste time solving it....

    Math Word Problem:

    Anwar has 1 apple, and then an angel from ABC Planet gives him 1 apple, how many apples does he have?

    No need to answer, because ABC Planet doesn't exist.

     

    Or maybe because you have no idea to solve the puzzle, Mr. 2116-rated?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #39

    True_Beginner

    Here_Is_Plenty wrote:

    Im sorry, Im not great at puzzles but what is wrong with Nb5?

    I tried that too, Sir. But I got nothing. What will Nb5 do?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #40

    hardtounderstand

    True_Beginner wrote:
    hardtounderstand wrote:

    That's just stupid puzzle....No one cares as these positions do not occur practically,Don't have to waste time solving it....

    Math Word Problem:

    Anwar has 1 apple, and then an angel from ABC Planet gives him 1 apple, how many apples does he have?

    No need to answer, because ABC Planet doesn't exist.

     

    Or maybe because you have no idea to solve the puzzle, Mr. 2116-rated?

    That's just ridiculous....You wrote the topic impossible puzzle..A puzzle that is unable to solve and yet everyone is trying to solve...:D.Yeah,I know maths....6can't be equal to 5,no matter how hard u try...This puzzle is the same example....


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