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29th January 2009, 12:38am
#1
by ni178
Wellington New Zealand
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If people hate the Ruy Lopez threat and want to move a pawn to protect, never do this.

 

but if they do, your in luck. try this puzzle with the same moves.

29th January 2009, 01:49am
#2
by Tiger-13
Sydney Australia
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ummm, i don't understand

29th January 2009, 11:29pm
#3
by ni178
Wellington New Zealand
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?

do you mean the points or the moves?

29th January 2009, 11:44pm
#4
by fzweb
My home Australia
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It's a well known problem with the Daminao Defence. Of course, black doesn't have to take the knight after Nxe5.

30th January 2009, 12:53am
#5
by M_M_
Medan Indonesia
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that's great !!!

30th January 2009, 01:42pm
#6
by efour
Helsinki Finland
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fzweb wrote:

It's a well known problem with the Daminao Defence. Of course, black doesn't have to take the knight after Nxe5.


I guess the point with playing f6 is to protect the e5 pawn, though, so it seems dubious of Black to first protect it and then just let it go...

In any case, thanks for the puzzle ni178!

30th January 2009, 02:14pm
#7
by agentkuyan
ST - BJ - ZG... Croatia
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This may do well against little kids up to 3 years of age

30th January 2009, 02:25pm
#8
by ni178
Wellington New Zealand
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thanks for the comments

27th February 2009, 12:55am
#9
by rayrook
Christchurch New Zealand
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agentkuyan wrote:

This may do well against little kids up to 3 years of age


i've done this on chess.com and other websites, so it's can be done against adults

27th February 2009, 12:56am
#10
by rayrook
Christchurch New Zealand
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And white don't have to do g6... 

27th February 2009, 10:21am
#11
by boyerbcb77
Pikeville United States
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Good

27th February 2009, 10:25am
#12
by razorblade12
Herefordshire United Kingdom
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i think that it is known as the elephant gambit

30th March 2009, 01:41pm
#13
by pyhpm
Issy-les-moulineaux (Paris) France
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It reminds me of a game, which ended badly for black.

 

Damiano's defense looked at first attractive as it seems to cancel the Ruy Lopez threat however it also opens the b2 diagonal (which I missed at first but that is used with interest from move 8. onwards).

Note that the computer analysis gives the following comment after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6?
(+0.92) MISTAKE - Your opponent made a mistake! Better was 2... Nc6

30th March 2009, 03:18pm
#14
by gyalogos11
Australia
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"..............,your (sic) in luck,........."

30th March 2009, 05:03pm
#15
by bigfish
E,M,T,Ontario Canada
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ok

30th March 2009, 05:47pm
#16
by TonightOnly
Phoenix, AZ United States
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Well, the refutation of Damiano's defense is quite a bit more complicated than that. In fact, it is still a little more complicated than even Rayrook's series of moves. Qf5+ will obviously be the end of black's chances. That is why 6...d5 is played. Then, after 7.Bxd5+ Kg6, the patient 8.h4 threatens the end of black. After the forced 8...h5 or 8...h6, white can simply play 9.Bxb7, winning the rook. This is the best that white can force, though it rarely gets to this point since it is novices that tend to play Damiano's defense. However, this is the official refutation of the defense that you will want to study if you are a 1.e4 player.

 

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