These are the last "long" puzzles. I think people are falling asleep when the puzzles are too long.

Once upawn a time there were two twins who were separated at birth. These twins happened to be born with the chess gene which grants instant mastery of the game to a lucky few who never study the game.

One night in Bangkok... ^_^ ...one of the twins got into the following position and then he announced a mate in eight. Meanwhile on the other side of world in New York the other twin got into the exact same position and also announcd a mate in eight. Can you help the twins mate in eight?

If the twins are mating shouldnt they be the first player listed...

oh and good puzzles the were both very different and useful.