Where's the King?

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20th April 2008, 09:09am
#1
by dethwing
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 80

 You come across an endgame, but a careless player has knocked the white king off the board. Can you determine where he must be?

Because of the limitations of the diagrams, there are two things I need to say for this puzzle to make sense.

1. Ignore the white king. The objective is to determine what square he is really on.

2. Ignore the "Black to move". The diagram insists upon adding this.


20th April 2008, 09:18am
#2
by colle-pirc
purcellville United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 379
...no?

20th April 2008, 09:24am
#3
by Ranigad
In the United States
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 107

If it's white's turn to move is it Ka8 or Ka2?


20th April 2008, 09:25am
#4
by musiquismo
df Mexico
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 199
e1, d2, f3 on one of those
20th April 2008, 09:29am
#5
by benws
NC United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 1174

hmmm. i am not sure, but i think he would be on c3. my reasoning is this:

how is black's king in check? the bishop could not have moved to check him. so a piece had to have discovered the check. there are no other white pieces on the board, and the king could not have done it . so it had to have been EN PASSANT. the pawn had to have come from c2, and the white king was on b3, and a black pawn on b4.


20th April 2008, 10:31am
#6
by Jeremy80
Göteborg Sweden
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 131
benws wrote:

hmmm. i am not sure, but i think he would be on c3. my reasoning is this:

how is black's king in check? the bishop could not have moved to check him. so a piece had to have discovered the check. there are no other white pieces on the board, and the king could not have done it . so it had to have been EN PASSANT. the pawn had to have come from c2, and the white king was on b3, and a black pawn on b4.

 


Excellent reasoning! I didn't solve it. I just looked at it for a short time and then I scrolled down to see if anyone else solved it and to me it seems like you did! And dethwing, thanks for posting! I love it when puzzles are different from all the others. Now I just feel bad I didn't put in a real effort to solve it! Cry


20th April 2008, 11:52am
#7
by dethwing
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 80
That's perfect reasoning. Good job.
20th April 2008, 12:02pm
#8
by payet_alexandre
Montpellier France
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 586
Nice puzzle! Thank you for posting it.
20th April 2008, 12:20pm
#9
by dethwing
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 80
Actually, you missed one bit of the argument. You assume it's blacks move from the position. It is, but this must be reasoned correctly. How can you be sure it's black to move?
20th April 2008, 12:55pm
#10
by 3021025
Netherlands
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 97
Because he is in check :P
20th April 2008, 12:56pm
#11
by dethwing
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 80
And what stops the king from blocking it on b3?
20th April 2008, 01:06pm
#12
by Jeremy80
Göteborg Sweden
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 131

The king can't block it on b3, because it would have been impossible for black to cause the double check on his last move.


20th April 2008, 01:10pm
#13
by dethwing
United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 80
Ok. That completes the puzzle.
 

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