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NM OmarCayenne
The following is from one of Taimanov's games. He has just played 24 Rbd1. So the obvious question to ask is...why can't Sliwa play 24... Qxe2 here?
Fiveofswords
that puzzle was easy...all my moves were totally forced.
shiro_europa
did sliwa play 24... Qxe2 in the game?
kco
black should have done 24....Qa5 instead he would have been still in the game then.
soothsayer8
It's interesting to play a puzzle from the side of the player who loses, point for originality right there, but as a puzzle it was pretty easy, all forced moves, I think.
chess_cake
nice, the problem with the back rank mate.
Sliwa in fact did play 24... Qa5, kco (and he resigned several moves later).
And as for the rest of you guys with your typical "easy easy" business...it couldn't have been that easy if a player the strength of Sliwa overlooked it until right at the last moment. I'd like to see how many of you closet masters would've found it in an actual game...
KnightAssault
You make a good point, tonydal! Finding the critical position and then the critical move is one thing in a puzzle/problem (when everybody knows to look for SOMETHING out of the ordinary) and quite another in a tournament when under stress and time pressure. Not too long ago Kramnik blundered against a computer opponent and allowed himself to be mated by knight and queen! Few people would dare to criticize a player of such stature, but he simply overlooked the mate! There is almost always more than meets the eye in high-rated games.
I find myself puzzled, more often than not, when a game between grandmasters is resigned by the loser. Sometimes it takes me several minutes to see why the position is lost...Sometimes I never do get it!
Thanks for sharing this illustration! And thanks for taking time to explain the youngster's game to him (the kid from Finland who shared his drawn game).
I'll be checking your postings more in the future!
lol i didnt mean that the position was easy, i just thought it was funny to play a puzzle when all the moves were totally forced and the result was lost :P
jamessaul
yep easy cz its all forced, but cool to be on the other side.
I'm not sure how "forced" ever came to be deemed synonymous with "easy"...but somehow you guys seem to be making some sort of sense of that...
heinzie
Wicked way of using the puzzle interface ;)
Elubas
1...Qxe2: told to play it
2...Nxg7 only legal move
3...Nd8 again only legal move
All black has to do in this puzzle is take the bishop and play some only moves and get mated.
Qxg7+ may not be easy to find, but if you're black and your opponent plays it, it's pretty clear what your best (and only!) move is!
Anyway, that's what people meant by "easy" I think. I personally didn't think even white's moves were that hard (not trying to brag or anything, it just didn't seem too complicated) though of course in an actual game it's much harder to find these things.
dewriat
After figuring out white's queen move, a quote for the great tonydal comes to mind:
"Easy as money in a pile of trash."
NM ChessNetwork
Nice mate in 3 puzzle starting with Qxg7 sac. :)
FirebrandX
why can't Sliwa play 24... Qxe2 here?
That's what made the puzzle easy. It's also a question one should ask themselves whenever an opponent offers up free material. Often times it's a trap like that.
I personally didn't think even white's moves were that hard (not trying to brag or anything, it just didn't seem too complicated) though of course in an actual game it's much harder to find these things.
Oh sure, you're not trying to brag or anything...I mean, what chess player would ever try to brag?...I suppose I should've left it at the first move (and stopped it there). Chess-playing jerks...
JG27Pyth
After Qa5, I was wondering how Taimanov finshed... it looked to me like the kind of position that a GM like Taimanov makes seem utterly commanding but which an ordinary player can easily fumble back to equality. After looking over the game, I think my assessment was right on the money... Taimanov makes it look easy -- a real positional kill imo... Taimanov just improves his position and degrades Sliwas until Sliwa has nothing to do but crack.
Yeah but I'm not. I used to be into bragging in chess but I've grown out of it.
But seriously though, the tactics just kind of flow in this one... in my puzzle book, the hard ones are when it's so hard to notice the tactical soft spots to even come up with a move.
jerry2468
lolz
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