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5th November 2008, 03:40pm
#1
by 94PaGe04
Lund Sweden
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 130
5th November 2008, 03:46pm
#2
by McLovin369
Manassas Park United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 80

1. Ra8+ Ke7

2.Qxh8 Qxh8

3. Rxh8

still come out the same way

5th November 2008, 03:48pm
#3
by Glue112
Massachussetts United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 16

Why not Ra8+ first? then Ke7. Rxf8...Kxf8. Qxh8+

5th November 2008, 03:51pm
#4
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433
Glue112 wrote:

Why not Ra8+ first? then Ke7. Rxf8...Kxf8. Qxh8+


Because of 1. Ra8+ Ke7 2. Rxf8 Rxf8

5th November 2008, 03:57pm
#5
by chawil
Lowestoft, Suffolk United Kingdom
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 453

1. Qf6+ Qe? 2. Ra8#

1...      Kc8 2. Ra8+ 2. Kb7 Rxe8 and white is a queen for a rook ahead rather than just a rook. Of course white already has a won game with 3 extra pawns. However I take the point of the x-ray attack regaining the queen.

5th November 2008, 04:05pm
#6
by 94PaGe04
Lund Sweden
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 130
chawil wrote:

1. Qf6+ Qe? 2. Ra8#

1...      Kc8 2. Ra8+ 2. Kb7 Rxe8 and white is a queen for a rook ahead rather than just a rook. Of course white already has a won game with 3 extra pawns. However I take the point of the x-ray attack regaining the queen.


 Ur first alternative isn't a forced mate cause of ur second, a queen for a rook and a queen is a better change then rook for queen, especially when as u say white has 3 more pawns...

5th November 2008, 04:06pm
#7
by 94PaGe04
Lund Sweden
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 130
McLovin369 wrote:

1. Ra8+ Ke7

2.Qxh8 Qxh8

3. Rxh8

still come out the same way


 I see ur point, I didn't see it when I made the puzzle...

5th November 2008, 04:08pm
#8
by TheGrobe
Calgary Canada
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 14433

I think I prefer the text moves as it's the only way to guarantee both of Black's remaining major peices come off the board.  Pawns aside, I'd much prefer K+R vs K to K+Q vs K+R.  Even McLovin369's vairation allows Black to escape with K+Q+R vs K+Q if he so desires.  The text is decisive.  Good puzzle.

 

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