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20th October 2008, 08:29am
#1
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

apparently theres a law coming out on banning children on having a glass of red or white wine or alchohol on special occasions due to more kids getting there dads to get them pints!

 

what rubbish they make laws these days

20th October 2008, 08:44am
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by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8363

An alcohol charity’s proposal that parents should be prosecuted for giving their children alcohol in the home has been dismissed as unworkable by the Government.

Alcohol experts and other campaign groups also said that it was counter-productive.

Alcohol Concern recommended that the age limit for drinking in private be raised from 5 to 15 in a report highlighting an increase in the amount drunk by 11 to 13-year-old girls. The group said that a change in legislation would signal to parents the seriousness of underage drinking.

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Caroline Flint, the Public Health Minister, insisted that Britain had turned the corner in its fight against underage drinking and ruled out a change in the age limit.

“I don’t think passing a law to ban alcohol for those under 15 would be enforceable or necessarily effective”, she said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article1717253.ece

Whatever next? A ban on homework?

20th October 2008, 08:47am
#3
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

no a ban on breathing! lol

20th October 2008, 01:54pm
#4
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

Red Wine can actually do you good, especially your heart. As long as you don't have too much.

21st October 2008, 08:19am
#5
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

i know

21st October 2008, 08:19am
#6
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

its stupid

21st October 2008, 01:01pm
#7
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

Very stupid, I had red wine when I was 5 at the church with bread !

25th October 2008, 12:51am
#8
by knightspawn5
United States
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 21700

yeah, they make some stupid laws nowadays don't they.

25th October 2008, 01:10am
#9
by kco
Perth Australia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 23226
artfizz wrote:

Whatever next? A ban on homework?

 Well IMO homework doe not work or help the chidren to learn, they are better off to do research/study also the teachers fail to teach the chidren on money, how to think , how to learn and computers like IT.

 About the wine I think is the parents responsibility, they shouldn't be encouraging thier children to drink at a early age and baning it won't work

25th October 2008, 02:10am
#10
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

i know its pathetic

25th October 2008, 02:41am
#11
by exigentsky
CA United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 441

Who's really going to enforce it?

25th October 2008, 02:46am
#12
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

i dont know but

25th October 2008, 02:46am
#13
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

its meant to be enforced in about a year

25th October 2008, 04:59am
#14
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

But it's not right.

25th October 2008, 05:04am
#15
by kco
Perth Australia
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 23226

Rich are you saying is ok for young children to drink alcohol ?

25th October 2008, 05:14am
#16
by rich
United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 27854

Yeah, I did it never did me any harm ! I drunk a little red wine, with bread at the church and I'm here.

25th October 2008, 06:01am
#17
by artfizz
South (GMT) +rT United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 8363

I know several people who regularly take Warfarin (one of the main consituents of rat poison) and Digitalis (a poisonous extract from the foxglove plant). However, I wouldn't advocate that anybody else take these - except under strict medical guidance.

Alcohol is also technically a poison, though it would be misleading to call it that, since virtually everything becomes either poisonous or harmful at a sufficiently large dose. The mediterraean countries take a liberal approach on alcohol, introducing it to quite young children (certainly under 10's) but in very dilute form initially, and in the context of family meals. Their view seems to be that this takes away the glamour and lure that alcohol can attain if it is seen as a forbidden pleasure. France, in particular, is a wine-producing country, hence in the countryside especially, wine is a familar product.

In the UK by contrast, we are not so well organised at providing alcohol in a safe format for youngsters. Family meals are no longer the norm - especially for teenagers. The UK has significant problems with under-age drinking and alcohol-fueled anti-social behaviour. A sip of red wine once a week is not a comparable amount to a glass of red wine a day.

A blanket ban on alcohol for under-16's at home is both unenforceable and not seriously on the cards, as far as I'm aware. Alcohol, like smoking, is addictive. Society has a responsibility to protect youngsters from such dangers until they reach an age where they can be held responsible for their own decisions.

Adults, though, have to do their bit as well. For instance, we could avoid glamourising single malts and whiskeys. I only drink cola - pretty much. And we all know how bad THAT is for you -     http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_033.html     even without the cocaine it used to contain. 

27th October 2008, 03:20am
#18
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

thats true

27th October 2008, 08:55pm
#19
by ChessIsBliss
North Carolina United States
Member Since: Oct 2008
Member Points: 69

Although I don't drink and would not let my kids drink I think ...

NEW LAW----> No more new laws!

28th October 2008, 03:22am
#20
by mathsart
tewkesbury United Kingdom
Member Since: May 2008
Member Points: 232

lol

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