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BlackJack card counting?


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #1

    Percyval

    Is there any Blackjack players here at chess.com, if theres anyone that knows something about card counting I would like to hear about it, what do you think?Any comments are welcome.

    Sincerely: PercyvalSmile

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #2

    phyxius

    Card Counting is cheating, chess.com doesn't tolerate cheaters

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    Percyval

    phyxius wrote:

    Card Counting is cheating, chess.com doesn't tolerate cheaters


     Well, Maybe or maybe not. Maybe not: because card counting is just a way of calculating probability, and you must do that with your brain, you cant use any electronic devices nor any other kind of machine just, math and your brain. I think is just a matter of skill.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    blakdrgn

    Counting cards is not illegal but casino's have people in surveilance who can count, they watch to see who bets in accordance with the decks ' count ' consistantly and are in their rights to ask you to leave. Although you will keep your winnings and get out of there in one piece, you can be banned from returning.

    Black jack offers the best chances of any casino game (without counting), like chess openings you need to learn what is called the black jack matrix which dictates your best options of hit/stand/split in accordance with the dealers 'up card'. If my memory serves me correctly the odd's are -0.75, in the casino's favour when using the 'matrix' system of play and can reach very reasonable +3.s when coupled with counting, maybe more.

    For someone starting out I would take a look into standard deviation so as to avoid confusion about probability, if you're unsure.

    Hope this helps, yes I can count.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    wormrose

    Card counting is not cheating, it is skillful playing. This has been established in a court of law. However, the casinos are not going to allow you to sit there and take their money. And they usually do not kick you out. They will simply tell you that you are welcome to play any game except Blackjack. Possible card counters are fairly easy to detect by dealers and floor supervisors. Then surveillance will have a closer look and make a determination.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    basenz

    hi lo is the most accurate method and there are two versions this is known as otion 1 and just a matter or giving a card a value eg.All 2's in the deck carry a value of 0 in this system and don't change the count when they are played. The 16 other small cards (3-6) are counted as plus 1 as they are played. The 12 middle cards (7-9) are considered neutral cards and do not change the count as they are played. The 16 big cards (10-King), excluding Aces, are counted as minus 1 as they are played.

     

    There are separate rule variations for tracking Aces in the Hi-Opt I counting system. This system doesn't keep track of Aces in the card count but there are still changes to basic strategy that need to be made depending on how many aces have been played.......

    Many players use external things such as chips, fingers, or feet, to keep track of how many aces have been played. 

     

    opt2 method is more complicated as it isnt just adding or subtracting 1 but there are values of 2 as well....

    the ko method is not as accurate but easier to get.....

     

    a complete count in hi lo will be 0 .....in ko will be 4

     

    but remember the casinos dont just use 1 deck!!!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    hazeleyes

    glad to see a real counter here.Gonosuke just said and showed the entire expierence I went through while on the boats in mississippi.Yes they can kick you out and usually will.Fortuneitly for me I got off the boat b4 security got there.


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