It usually takes me at least 15 minutes to finish off a fag. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

Just keep packing, Jif, just keep packing. . .

The whole ban could be nicely avoided with a simply uncostly messure on the part of a pub. 2 Seperate Rooms. We can sit in one with some nice chairs inside, window slightly open with a cozy fire and a nice whisky/lager etc. whilst you sit in the bar room on your comfy chairs with a fire whisky/lager etc. enjoying your smoke free environment. Its not hard, but the government seems to like band-wagons now days, they're just hitching a ride on the Anti Smoking one at the moment. I'm sure they'll jump right on another one soon...

 

Oo I know! How about anti-alcohol. It costs the Government/NHS between £1.4 and £1.7 billion per year for incidents to do with the misuse of Alcohol. It slowly kills people, makes them smell bad, makes them do things they wouldn't normally do, causes arguments and paranoia amongst people and a variety of other tasty things. I'm sure if we can get enough of a lobby we can do it.

 

I can see it now! Pro-Smokers-Against-Alcohol-To-Make-A-Point... PSAATMAP... Rolls off the tounge no?

In our club we used to have a bloke called drunken Duncan and he used to drink 8-12 cans of Carlsberg special brew during a game. He used to get in some right states during a match like  being sick and wetting himself, but beat him you could not. His grading was around the ECF 190 mark. Thats about a 2120 ELO rating. 

I regularly play in that state, usually after I've been to the pub on a friday night, but I always seem to wake up queenless on a Saturday morning.

TonyGas wrote: And smoking does look cool.

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Only if you're a teenager. (Surely???). Are you a teenager? Are your top 5 cool things:

Smoking a fag

Wearing trainers without shoelaces

shouting inane things for affect

Burping

Doing things you want, even if it harms other.

 

Cool dude.

 

 

I agree that smoking can be offensive and I don't mind the smoking bans in public places.  But when I'm walking to my car with a cig. and I happen to pass by someone who gives a fake cough just to make me feel bad, or to scold me through gesture, I get shit-throwing livid.  I don't think smoking is a good addiction by any means, but I don't see why one who does smoke has to continually put up with the bickering of those who don't...especially if the smoker goes out of his or her way to smoke in open-air areas, etc.  I enjoy my aftermeal cigarettes and smoking as a means of relaxation.  Smokers know all the vices that come with these "coffin nails" and don't need people perpetually telling us, "But it causes cancer, hurts your dentition, wrinkles your face prematurely, affects blood flow to the extremeties, etc. etc."  The list lengthens by the day.  I also don't agree with the SMOKERS who would see planet earth with an overgrown cigarette dangling from its "lips" just because they choose to smoke.  I think the extremes on both sides of the smoking argument are absolutely puerile.  There is almost always room enough for compromise and peaceable ends.

*cough*

Girls smoking is sexy...

Isn't that like saying waring socks with sandals is normal?

O and i definitely prefer non smoking sexy teen girls... they taste better (and I'm not talking about eating them)

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*cough*

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TonyGas wrote:

 It is no more disgusting than watching a fat person scoffing down a chocolate bar. At least smoking looks cool and makes a contribution to society. Thank you in anticipation of your comments.

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If a smoker is contributing to society, how is a fat person eating a chocolate bar not?  Hell, the paper companies that dump effluence in the river would also be contributing, as a rise in birth defects leads to a rise in the consumption of medicine. 

Its funny how the Americans seem to be very defensive over the 'fat person eating a chocolate bar' issue. I wonder why. As a smoker, I am used to being about as welcome as a ginger haired stepson in most places. When I see myself in the mirror, thankfully I'm not repulsed.

MMmmmm Smoking makes you look cool??

Yeah, right, my Dad look really cool when he had to have his skull stapled back together following brain surgery caused by secondaries from the cancerous lung he had removed two years before.

He looked particularly cool a few months after we realised the 2nd lot of surgery hadn't worked and he was no longer able to walk due to the cancer spreading through his brain.

I think he looks sooo cool now that he has died at 57 and left my mum to cope on her own for the last 5 years.

TonyGas I'm sure your wife and young children will love trying to get on with life when you (probably) die young from your habit. But hey - you'll look very cool doing it, so that's what's important. I bet your kids will agree.

archerfish, that was genuinely touching.

I wasn't, I was talking about non-religion. How am I insulting Americans? For the record I really like Americans. If you read back, you will notice I have been attacked several times during this thread, and have only reacted to, not created, any bad feeling. I started this thread looking for a real debate, and winding up a few small minded...people, along the way is merely a bonus.

Nothing like kissing an ash tray.  Bleh.

 

I'm an ex-smoker, it's a nasty habit.  And addictions are weaknesses.  It's a false pleasure, otherwise everytime you smoked, it would make you even happier.

 

But I am also the chubby guy scarfing the chocolate bar.  ;)  We all have our weaknesses.  No one is perfect. 

batgirl wrote:

"mmm i love smoking girls :) "

 

Which end do you light?

 

 

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well it depends how hot they are :D kiddin' :) my girlfriend smokes and she can be so sensual sometimes :)

Insight, foresight, moresight, the clock on the wall reads a quarter past midnight

wormdrink wrote:

Nothing like kissing an ash tray.  Bleh.

 

I'm an ex-smoker, it's a nasty habit.  And addictions are weaknesses.  It's a false pleasure, otherwise everytime you smoked, it would make you even happier.

 

But I am also the chubby guy scarfing the chocolate bar.  ;)  We all have our weaknesses.  No one is perfect. 

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 Hello, my name is Noone... anyone sen that old film? "my name is Nobody"

I will suggest a movie for all of you,very relative with this topic:"Thank you for smoking".A funny comedy about a man who is working for the tobacco companies and his job is to promote cigarettes!!Very clever and funny man...

Calvinhoddesliker said "actually, a saw a "smoking room" in airports on my way to india and back a few months ago".

Yes and i bet 100% it was awful..I found one in Qatar's airport and when i opened the door a huge cloud of smoke came from the inside of the room..I am not kidding,I felt very bad about this...I just didn't go inside to smoke even if i had hours to smoke..

Calvin, of course you are right. I don't inflict my habit on anyone else. I don't even smoke around my non smoking girlfriend, but I do defend my right to smoke. Wormdrink, of course we all have our weaknesses, and you choose chocolate. If you are happy being a chubster thats fine, I'm happy being a smelly smoker. I'm very hygenic, so it isn't really a problem. If a flannel could wash away blubber, you would have the perfect vice.