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20th December 2007, 06:20am
#61
by Charlie91
International
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 Billium248 wrote:

I find Charlie's argument as "proof that time travel is pure fantasy" just as comical as Ricardo's statement about what "makes time travel possible at all."  Really? ...


 Okay the word proof might not be appropriate, but I believe time travel is not possible (same as saying it's fantasy); that should not be comical.  I'm not a theoretical physicist, but that's my opinion as ordinary person.  I respect the views of those who really believe that time travel is very possible (the technology is just not yet around).

On another point, someone asked if time is the 4th dimension--yes, time is the 4th dimension.  Our minds can visualized 3 dimensions, but not 4--so don't try to imagine that.  Serious mathematicians even see things in several dimensions--making such computations incomprehensible to us.  They run out of Greek symbols.  We should ask the 5th Dimension...

In anything, there are barriers, things we can't fathom, things mysterious.  Maybe someone from the far future might visit us and explain these things...  Wink


20th December 2007, 06:30am
#62
by Amnesiac
Devon United Kingdom
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Member Points: 1300

Regarding the film "Bill and Teds Excellent adventure" which was mentioned earlier, is this an example of time being written in stone? What I mean is that everything that happened in that film had to happen or the timeline would'nt make sense. All of the timetraveling always had to happen or they would have flunked history, therefore the future world wouldnt exist as it did and so they wouldnt have sent somebody back to make it happen.

Another film "Back to the future" is a different theory of time as there are tangent universes and small changes can reset things back the way they were and were meant to be(who's to say what is meant to be)

I remember another very silly film in which it spent 95% of the film is basically explaining that you couldnt change the past or future, then at the end he does!

 

As regards to dimentions, last i heard theyd gotten into double figures although i dont know what they all are or what theyre called.

 

I think that before we try to understand the future and the past and whether we can go there we should try to understand the present. What is the present?

20th December 2007, 07:49am
#63
by Charlie91
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I'm guessing, it is Adam Sandler's movie, right?  I want that remote!  Perhaps Nostradamus tapped into this 4th dimension and saw the future.  Some people can see the future, and that's enough...


20th December 2007, 08:45am
#64
by Billium248
Detroit Rock City (GMT-4), MI United States
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Adam Sandler so did not use his remote correctly.  If I had one of those things, I would hit the pause button, get all my work done (including the tree house in the back yard that he never got to) and then un-pause time and spend the rest of the day with my family.  There is just never enuf hours in the day to do everything.  Having a remote to stop time would solve that problem.  Everything would appear to be done in an instant.  Of course that wouldn't make as good of a movie.  But I still want one of those things for Christmas.  :)

 

Yes, it was the word "proof" that I was laughing at, and that was in no way intended to be a derogatory laugh.  If it cames across as offensive, I apologize.

 

There are obviously two main lines of thinking when it comes to time travel theory:  A) time is already written (including your time travel) so nothing can be changed.  In fact, current events could be based on things that you have yet to do in the past.  (Examples:  Bill & Ted, The 1st Terminator movie, Somewhere in Time (with Christopher Reeve & Jane Seymore)) 

 

And B) that time is flexible and history can be re-shaped within the confines of whatever laws of nature exisit that we have yet to discover.  (Examples: Back to the Future, the 2nd & 3rd Terminator movies,  Frequency (with Dennis Quaid))

20th December 2007, 09:23am
#65
by Charlie91
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No offense taken Billium (that's why I explained the inappropriateness of the term); your views are well-taken.  English is my second language, and sometimes I don't use words in their strict meanings...   Cool
20th December 2007, 11:47am
#66
by JediMaster
Brookings SD United States
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 454
I think I would do like some other people said.  I would like to visit with Jesus.
20th December 2007, 12:25pm
#67
by JFercan
Toronto, Canada via Cali Colombia
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I would go back to yesterday and play today's winning lottery numbers.
20th December 2007, 05:40pm
#68
by Zugzwanger
Mission Viejo, CA United States
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Member Points: 57
Redserpent2000 wrote: Zugzwanger wrote:

Most have ever heard of "The grandfather paradox" but for those who have not, it's a science-fiction-based inconsistency, that cuts to the very heart of the idea of time traveling into the past. Let's say you travel into the past and murder your own grandfather before he sires your grandmother, act of you murdering your own grandfather eliminates the possibility of you ever coming into existence, and if you never cum into existence(pun intended) then you can never travel back in time and kill your grandfather.


Hello m8, not sure this is possible lol But I understand what you meant, not sure those who have never heard of it will though!

Red


it's not likely, though it is possible, just go to West Virginia, the inbreeding capital of the United States, lol. But seriously you manged highlight the way i misquoted the grandfather paradox thank you, of course the idea
is that you sever the branch of your family tree, before it grows.
21st December 2007, 02:27am
#69
by camdawg7
Grenada Grenada
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Member Points: 285
Akiko wrote:

Try this portion of my blog -

 

http://gnabgib.blogspot.com/2005/07/is-time-travel-possible-honest-answer.html

 


That is a very interesting article in your blog akiko.  I can now plainly see time travel possible 'cause I never thought of it like that.  However this doesn't answer most peoples questions of time travel into the PAST!  Unless going faster than the speed of light takes you back, but I don't think it's been proven yet that we can accellerate particles faster than the speed of light?

21st December 2007, 02:28am
#70
by Redserpent2000
Stockport United Kingdom
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Hi Zugs, west virginia the inbreeding capitol of the usa, risky statement there mate, lol. It's not just paradoxies in the past that are a concern but paradoxies by travelling into the future as well!

Red

24th December 2007, 05:35am
#71
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23167
I would ge back to the time when Richard walker was here, and have him a fishing match!
4th January 2008, 03:25am
#72
by Amnesiac
Devon United Kingdom
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Member Points: 1300
Amnesiac wrote:

Hello, I am the future Amnesiac and I have travelled to this point in time to prove to you all that time travel is possible. As you can see this is a quote, but of something I have'nt said yet. Don't believe me? I already know and will now quote things you will say in the future. The fact that I have shown you what you will post at some point in the future means you could try not posting it to prove me wrong. This will not work though as it has already happened, will already happened and is always is already going to have happened and you can never stop that.

oh and Fredster50, when you play Kasparov in his comeback tour of games please remember not to play the Queens gambit declined in game 3 and that his move 37...Ng6? in game 7 is a mistake due to the tempory queen sacrifice 38Qe5!! and after the forced ten move sequence you will get it back with interest.

Good luck in the future and past everybody!


 

4th January 2008, 03:25am
#73
by Amnesiac
Devon United Kingdom
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Member Points: 1300
fredster50 wrote: How did you do that?

 

4th January 2008, 03:26am
#74
by Amnesiac
Devon United Kingdom
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Member Points: 1300
Redserpent2000 wrote:

But I have'nt said this yet!


 

4th January 2008, 03:27am
#75
by Amnesiac
Devon United Kingdom
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rich wrote: What the??!!

 

4th January 2008, 03:28am
#76
by Amnesiac
Devon United Kingdom
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Member Points: 1300
camdawg7 wrote:Thats not possible!!!!!!!

 

4th January 2008, 03:45am
#77
by NM Reb
Lisbon Portugal
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Member Points: 4165
Utter hogwash. There were many villians in history folks, not only Hitler. What about Stalin, Mao , G Yagoda?  The commie killers of the 20th century made hitler and his nazis look like a bunch of girl scouts and the Gulags were even worse than the nazi camps. Strange though that they dont receive at least equal condemnation isn't it?
4th January 2008, 04:04am
#78
by Redserpent2000
Stockport United Kingdom
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Member Points: 551

Hi Reb, I guess we can only blame the historians for this!

Red

4th January 2008, 01:31pm
#79
by Ricardo_Morro
Bridgeport, CT United States
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Member Points: 646
I would go back to see that famous game of Marshall's where he plays Qg3 and see if the spectators really showered the board with gold coins.
4th January 2008, 01:54pm
#80
by rich
My Home United Kingdom
Member Since: Jul 2007
Member Points: 23167
Why is Amnesiac doing so much quoting.

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