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2nilvshort

yes I too would like to know why this was downgraded as an opening and what the problem is with reinstating it?

SPARTANEMESIS

I'm not trying to be unsupportive, but if the lady is supposed to have the day off I say let her take the day off.  

nikre

nice to see you here 2nilvshort, thank you!

dubina333

I have to protest too. Too many starting positions were removed. I can create no more games, for ex., by 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Nf6 3. d4 Bg4 (that is my favourite line), or 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 or 3...Qd6 (that were themes for a lot of matches and vote games for our "1. e4 d5 Scandinavian defense" group) too. Where is Botvinnik's variation of the English opening, A26, that I prefer to play both as black and white? I agree with the fact that the previous system of starting positions was too complicate and contained openings never played by anyone having a fide rating. But I disagree with such a list that I have to see now when I create a game, especially when I have to play thematic games against my friends from e4 d5 group or against someone who dislikes my favourite openings.

I'll ask our super admin if he is allowed to create Qa5 or Qd6 thematic matches after starting positions have been changed. I think we have to join this protest.

dubina333

And where is 4. c2-c3? I don't see it in the list about question, as 4. Bf1-c4 too. I played Goring's many times, but with less and less success and finally left it, but it was why I was interessed by this topic.

nikre

yes, a lot of variations are gone. now we have only few selections for Scotch Game

eddysallin

You have my support...Scotch has always been the way to open my chess day.

nikre

thank you, sir.

nikre

thank you padman for your support.

dubina333

Yes, the Scandinavian group suffered from these restrictions too. Scotch players, we join your protest and ask to staff to put old starting positions back. And please return both main gambit lines of the Scotch, the classical Scotch gambit 4. Bc4, and my preferred Göring gambit 4. c3 too.

nikre

thank you dubina333 for joining and welcome! seems our protest group is growing up.

CHESS.COM DID YOU SEE THIS???

nikre
kohai

Yes I saw it Smile

Its being discussed at the moment. Having 3000 ECO loading is a little hefty so we're looking at the best way to add these back for you.

nikre

thank you kohai and chess.com !

we are waiting for that moment.

AnastasiaStyles

3000 ECO, Kohai?

How about just the 500 actual main ECO codes? Or how about a reduced default and then a button saying "Advanced" or somesuch to give a wider selection?

nikre

yes, it would be even greater if the starting positions can be manually set.

AZtokeshi

My appologies if this is not the correct forum.  Is this an opening that beginners should explore near the begining of their chess carreer? More intermediate?  Dependes on how the player evolves on their own? Thanks.

Ruby-Fischer

I get sick of all the complaining and moaning on here.

So is it REALLY such a big deal if your Avatar has gone, trophies changed or whatever...

Really can Kohai not have a day off? Is it so flippin urgent it cant wait?

Take the day off - dont worry there will still be plenty of moaning to come back to.

nikre

@AZtokeshi, i think it is suitable for both beginners and advanced players, why not.

nikre

Ruby-Fischer, it is not about only avatar or trophies disappearing. it is about our group's theme openning which is available previously and has gone for several weeks. please read the original post carefully.

by the way, there is no one forced kohai to do this immediately by giving up her day off. we waited long enough and still can wait.