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Sofia Rule options in chess.com


  • 4 years ago · Quote · #1

    panandh

    Hi all,

    Recently I followed world chess championship and one thing I'm particularly amazed is how sofia rule can absorb energy from every player and make the chess much more exciting.

    For me 50-move draw was much more exciting than 25-30 move draw.

    I was wondering whether it is possible to include sofia rules (as an option) in some of the chess played in chess.com like CC, live chess, tournament.

    Of course I can always self impose the sofia rule, but it will be really exciting for me if I participate tournaments with sofia rule.

    I would like to hear about this from fellow members of chess.com

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #2

    msoewulff

    it is incredible how you can think that those silly rules made this WCC exciting. Its the players!

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #3

    BorgQueen

    Sometimes good games are aborted by very early draw offers though, so there is some value in it. 

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #4

    AnthonyCG

    The sofia rule was just a try by Topalov to hang in the game longer. No draw offers means longer games. I'm guessing that since he's younger he figured that Anand would get fatigued quicker than he would and his youth would give him a big advantage. Didn't matter anyway;

    That rule being used had nothing to do with chess.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #5

    panandh

    I personally and emotionalyy support Anand. I all the way go against topalov.

    However, onething that could not be taken away from topalov is sofia rule. It has different impact on tournament games. However it drains energy of both the player in WCC. The average number of moves per game is much higher in 2010 WCC compared to anyother WCC. From normal chess enthusiastic it is exciting to see a technical draw, rather than quick agrred draw

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #6

    trysts

    I'm for Topalov, and the "Sofia rules" did make it exciting. All World Championships should be "Sofia rules"!

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #7

    Shivsky

    I don't see how much use it will have for a correspondence/live game where I can ALREADY

    a) Not offer draws.

    b) Ignore my opponent's draw offers

    Accepting some "contractual" obligation that I will never offer a draw is silly unless you're playing a 4-5 hour game online which actually test your stamina. Now what %age of Chess.com live games even go that distance? 

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #8

    BorgQueen

    Could easily be an option for team matches... just a minimum number of moves to be played before draws can be offered would suffice imo.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #9

    jesterville

    Actually, the Sofia rules, self imposed by Topalov did in fact affect the results of the last WCC. I believe it was Game 8 that was considered a draw by most GMs after move 25 (and chess.com abandoned the broadcast), but Topalov still pressed, and won this game, after Anand blundered...probably due to fatigue. This was indeed a good strategy by Topalov to put added pressure on his older opponent.

    Such a strategy can work OTB.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #10

    panandh

    Shivsky wrote:

    I don't see how much use it will have for a correspondence/live game where I can ALREADY

    a) Not offer draws.

    b) Ignore my opponent's draw offers

    Accepting some "contractual" obligation that I will never offer a draw is silly unless you're playing a 4-5 hour game online which actually test your stamina. Now what %age of Chess.com live games even go that distance? 


    I agree. The number of draws are really very small for me.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #11

    panandh

    jesterville wrote:

    Actually, the Sofia rules, self imposed by Topalov did in fact affect the results of the last WCC. I believe it was Game 8 that was considered a draw by most GMs after move 25 (and chess.com abandoned the broadcast), but Topalov still pressed, and won this game, after Anand blundered...probably due to fatigue. This was indeed a good strategy by Topalov to put added pressure on his older opponent.

    Such a strategy can work OTB.


    Thats true. Thats true for last game as well. Thats what makes much more interesting for chess followers.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #12

    panandh

    BorgQueen wrote:

    Could easily be an option for team matches... just a minimum number of moves to be played before draws can be offered would suffice imo.


    The sofia rule doesn't say anything about minimum number of moves. However 3-time position repeat and 50 moves without capturing / moving pawn etc are considered as draw. I know in CC, you can "Claim draw" (instead of offer draw) in chess.com for 3-time position repeat.

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #13

    painthamizhmv

    -Knight- wrote:

    The problem with the sofia rule is in a game like this it would be a waste of time.

    http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=84767850


    One can always repeat the position and claim the draw unless the opponent is really nuts. If opponent is really nuts draw by agreement may not happen at all. What the sofia rule will impose is make the players to find repeating position and that is not easy in an unbalanced position like Queen Vs 2 Rooks.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #14

    panandh

    painthamizhmv wrote:
    -Knight- wrote:

    The problem with the sofia rule is in a game like this it would be a waste of time.

    http://www.chess.com/livechess/game.html?id=84767850


    One can always repeat the position and claim the draw unless the opponent is really nuts. If opponent is really nuts draw by agreement may not happen at all. What the sofia rule will impose is make the players to find repeating position and that is not easy in an unbalanced position like Queen Vs 2 Rooks.


    Agreed. Also finding a repeating position in the opening phase is also difficult. This will avoid intentional draw by the players, like what russian players did to Bobby Fischer.


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