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I'm on team usa: northwest, and in our vote chess, I've consistently noticed votes for atypical moves that hang pieces or that no one has made any mention of in the discussion.
And in an effort to make our team more cohesive, I was hoping there would be a way to see who voted for what. That way, if a team member consistently is suggesting Kh1 or Qxa7 or something, as a team we could talk to that member about the benefits of discussing things as a team and making their vote matter. Or if they are unwilling to listen, getting an admin to remove them from our vote matches. I'm not pointing any fingers as I have no idea who it would be, but it would be interesting to see who voted for what. Or maybe release that information at the end of a game, like say "Top prize to player xyz who the team agreed with in 94% of moves" "A consolation prize to player zyx who the team agreed with in 4% of moves". Vote chess works best when the team discusses and votes according to the discussion, and if there is a spy or a troll on the team it hurts, and if there is someone who is just voting random moves, they could learn some valuable information by paying attention to the comments.
Joey, what are you talking about? I understand you have some need to comment, but please at least keep it relevant and coherent. Not trying to be rude to you, but either you didn't read what I wrote, or didn't comprehend what I wrote, or chose to ignore your comprehension. And right now I want to clear up this miscommunication. So to address your points, vote chess isn't supposed to be a weird and crazy social experiment, if it was, why would they even include comments? Why wouldn't we just all vote blindly? Why would they even show the votes after you voted when they could just leave it unknown.
My approach says nothing about punishing those who deviate from chosen move. Instead my approach is a means of better facilitating communication between team mates and fostering healthy discussion of the moves- which was my understanding of vote chess's intent. If someone is in fact a spy for another team, then that is against the rules and will be punished if/when they are caught, so it is moot whether or not my suggestion addresses them. I think Lord of the Flies chess would be more of the crazy and weird social experiment you are thinking of where people don't discuss things, they just run voting willy-nilly. Mine would be a more deliberative democratic chess, which is actually the opposite of your implication.As to your edit: what? I don't even know what you're getting at. Theres probably 20 million people who have lived in the northwest in the last 2-3 decades, and I'd wager most of them don't play chess, and even of the few that do play chess, fewer play vote chess on chess.com for team usa northwest. I can't imagine any of them playing Vote chess on chess.com, and thats fine because they don't.
edit: http://www.chess.com/votechess/help.html Reading this might help you understand vote chess better.
I understand your point A M, I don't think that will ever be added nor do I think it should be. Everyone gets one vote on the team. Knowing what they voted at the end of the move wont change what was already voted. In cases where it could have many different choices for different moves. People will vote for what they want to see the move to be. Not because someone wants them to vote one way. Yes, some make atypical moves, but they are under no obligation to tell anyone their reason, nor do they have to. I would like everyone to say what they moved and why, but I know that will never happen. As far as spies go, we could have a spy, but even he gets only one vote, and, advanced knowledge of our move to the other team doessn't seem to me of great importance, they will know our move anyway at the end of our time.
I have seen people do extenise analysis on games yet lose the vote they wanted. Even though we are all on the same team, we may disagree with with each other on a certain move, and, vote differently. That is everyones choice. Maybe that's why we don't see whats been voted till after each of us vote for a move. So, people just don't vote without looking at the game and thinking about a move.
I see you say: if a team member consistently is suggesting Kh1 or Qxa7 or something, as a team we could talk to that member about the benefits of discussing things as a team and making their vote matter. Or if they are unwilling to listen, getting an admin to remove them from our vote matches.
So what I seeing you say is, if your move doesnt matter to me, then you should be off the team and not allowed to play vote chess. First, the admin has no way to kick anyone off a vote chess game. It's not like a team match where that can be done. This is vote chess where everyone has a vote and if you dont like the vote they made, then simply outvote them. It's a majority of votes for the same move that decides. Their vote does matter to them. Be it good or bad That's the way I see it anyway. I'm sure you will get more opinions on this.... This is just my opionion.
This thread is a bit older but still valid. If a member gets removed from a team would he still be a participant of the Vote Chess game of that group?
@ Dietmar, yes, he would still be in the match.....
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