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Vote chess improvements


  • 3 years ago · Quote · #61

    Martin0

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  • 3 years ago · Quote · #62

    wormrose

    joeydvivre wrote:

    Stanley Milgram did a very famous experiment that failed.

    I couldn't find him in the database.Foot in mouth

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #63

    Bubatz

    [Off topic, but:] Most known is his 1974 book "Obedience to authority". The original paper is

    "Behavioral Study of Obedience" (in: Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology. 67, 1963, S. 371–378)

    Find pdf here:

    http://www.radford.edu/~jaspelme/_private/gradsoc_articles/obedience/Migram_Obedience.pdf

    Actually, there's an older 1961-paper called "dynamics of obedience", but I couldn't get hold of that one.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #64

    peterb1201

    Serious question: is there a setting that will cause chess.com to not display forum messages (including vote chess messages) from certain loudmouths?  That would solve 98% of the problems I have with it.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #65

    Bubatz

    peterb1201 wrote:

    Serious question: is there a setting that will cause chess.com to not display forum messages (including vote chess messages) from certain loudmouths?  That would solve 98% of the problems I have with it.

    Serious answer: While this feature is often included when blocking people on other message boards, it isn't the case here.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #66

    Martin0

    On topic: I added that vote chess tournaments should be possible and that super admins should be able to remove players from vote chess games without removing them from the whole group.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #67

    Martin0

    I added that you should be able to insert a diagram with the current position without needing to copy and paste the FEN-string and that there should be links to the group home page at the vote chess game.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #68

    Martin0

    I sent the list to staff and got the reply that they added my suggestions to their list and review it as they make improvements in future releases. I guess all that's left is to wait and see if any suggestion will become real.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #69

    Michael-G

    future releases?That means from 2 -20 years.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #70

    Bubatz

    Thanks Martin0! @Michael: Who knows, maybe now that the general redesign is done and implemented, vote chess improvements are a bit higher on their agenda.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #71

    Michael-G

    yeah , you wish!!!

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #72

    Bubatz

    Michael-G wrote:

    yeah , you wish!!!

    what else can we do ...

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #73

    wormrose

    ...maybe in another website, far far away.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #74

    FirebrandX

    I have another rather important suggestion I'd like to make for Vote Chess:

    People should NOT be allowed to edit or delete comments made during each turn.

    I found in my research of a team I'm playing against that the lead contributer systematically deleted each and every post he made during a previous match with my team. Imagine a scenario where you have a spy that is only a member of your game so they can leak information to the other team. By not being able to read all archived comments after the game because of people deleting their posts, you have no way of knowing whether something like that is going on. It's important to preserve each and every comment logged so a review can be made afterwords. For me, the best part of Vote Chess is the post-game review.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #75

    Bubatz

    That makes alot of sense, actually.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #76

    wormrose

    ...and if you say something stupid or suggest what turns out to be a blunder the instant after you submit your comment or say something you later regret then...

    EmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassedEmbarassed live with it?

    ...and if you can't edit comments then you can't correct typos either CryCryCry

    ...and if you can't do these things then a lot of people will feel afraid to say anything and participation will degrade

    I don't think that would prevent spying and I don't think spying is a significant problem. Cheaters never win - winners never cheat

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #77

    FirebrandX

    wormrose wrote:

    ...and if you say something stupid or suggest what turns out to be a blunder the instant after you submit your comment or say something you later regret then...

    live with it?

    ...and if you can't edit comments then you can't correct typos either

    ...and if you can't do these things then a lot of people will feel afraid to say anything and participation will degrade

    I don't think that would prevent spying and I don't think spying is a significant problem. Cheaters never win - winners never cheat

    Lets break down each of those:

    1. If you say something you regret, simply post a retraction. Posting a blunder is still important for the process of discussing a move. Going back and deleting can make the rest of the discussion look strange and not make sense.

    2. Not being able to edit typos is a small price to pay. I found another example where the contributor went back and edited many of his posts to simply state "A" in them. That again is obviously trying to hide something like his method of analysis.

    3. Being too afraid to contribute because of the two points above makes you already suspicious to begin with. If people want to have an honest game, they will have NO PROBLEM posting. I sure wouldn't. How about you?

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #78

    Martin0

    I like being able to edit my comments and update diagrams and analyses. Theres no point in showing a line 10 moves ahead after realizing it was a blunder on move 3 (then change the diagram and show the blunder).

    If I couldn't edit I might end up making a lot of comments in a row with some small changes and I think people really don't want to bother to look through my 5-6 comments in a row when 1 comment could have been enaugh.

    I can see your point though with cheaters being harder to caught, so maybe it should be impossible to delete/edit a comment after the move has been made to at least make it harder for them. Then they would need to delete/edit posts in the last minute for each move.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #79

    Bubatz

    I too like being able to edit my posts, but FirebrandX definitely has a point. Making it impossible to edit a comment after a certain time has passed may be the solution.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #80

    wormrose

    The solution to what?

    I think when the game is finished you can no longer edit comments.


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