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Which piece to trade?


  • 20 months ago · Quote · #1

    RainbowRising

    So the other day I was nagging David Pruess  about this idea for a video series I had. The theme was linking which pieces to trade with positional themes. There is already a video which illustrates strong couples in chess, such as a the Q and N, but there was really no linkage to any features of position, such as K safety, pawn structure etc.. I could think of a few examples where knowledge of the position would aid in knowing which pieces to trade, but not many - hence why I thought a series would be a good idea, to illustrate the main ones. A perfect example came to me today when I observed a game here on chess.com. It was clear that one player knew exactly which pieces to trade to make a draw, while the other appeared to have no idea.

     

    So now that you've had a taste of what such a video series would be like, did you find it interesting? Would a video series be the best way to convey this, or would a chess mentor course be better? Thoughts!

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #2

    hicetnunc

    Although the B+h pawn is a very well known ending, I'm not sure white had any chance to win in the initial position Smile

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #3

    RainbowRising

    I was afraid of that, but I'd argue that it would still be better to keep R on and see if black displays correct defence, at least for a few moves more.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #4

    Musikamole

    RainbowRising wrote:

    I was afraid of that, but I'd argue that it would still be better to keep R on and see if black displays correct defence, at least for a few moves more.


    Amazing. A beginning chess players mind at work. :)

    How can a K+B+P vs. K be not winning? White must have made an error, causing stalemate. What was White's error?  Fascinating, as it looks like a slam dunk.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #5

    FifthDimension

    thats pretty cool.

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #6

    planeden

    Musikamole wrote:

    How can a K+B+P vs. K be not winning? White must have made an error, causing stalemate. What was White's error?  Fascinating, as it looks like a slam dunk.


    a king can always prevent a rook pawn from queening.  the bishop in this case is the wrong color to help because it can't prevent the king from getting to the corner.  however white plays the pawn will be lost eventually, or there may be a stalemate possibility, but the result will be a draw.  (ehem, i think all that is right, but you can look it up somewhere). 

  • 20 months ago · Quote · #7

    Musikamole

    planeden wrote:
    Musikamole wrote:

    How can a K+B+P vs. K be not winning? White must have made an error, causing stalemate. What was White's error?  Fascinating, as it looks like a slam dunk.


    a king can always prevent a rook pawn from queening.  the bishop in this case is the wrong color to help because it can't prevent the king from getting to the corner.  however white plays the pawn will be lost eventually, or there may be a stalemate possibility, but the result will be a draw.  (ehem, i think all that is right, but you can look it up somewhere). 


    I didn't know that. I did hear that a rook pawn is the most dangerous of the passed pawns, as there is no i file.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #8

    tarikhk

    Musikamole wrote:
    planeden wrote:
    Musikamole wrote:

    How can a K+B+P vs. K be not winning? White must have made an error, causing stalemate. What was White's error?  Fascinating, as it looks like a slam dunk.


    a king can always prevent a rook pawn from queening.  the bishop in this case is the wrong color to help because it can't prevent the king from getting to the corner.  however white plays the pawn will be lost eventually, or there may be a stalemate possibility, but the result will be a draw.  (ehem, i think all that is right, but you can look it up somewhere). 


    I didn't know that. I did hear that a rook pawn is the most dangerous of the passed pawns, as there is no i file.


    its the opposite. It's the least dangerous because there is no i file. Perhaps you are confusing an outside passed pawn with a rook pawn.

  • 19 months ago · Quote · #9

    planeden

    i should not have said always...but from wiki

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_and_pawn_versus_king_endgame

    A rook pawn (on the a-file or h-file) has much less chance of promoting than other pawns. The reason is that if the opposing king can get to any square in front of the pawn, it can not be driven away from the file, and the pawn can not queen. Black can always draw if he can reach the c8 square for an a-pawn (pawn on the a file) or the equivalent f8 for an h-pawn, except for the position in the next diagram, with White to move. Therefore, an advanced rook pawn generally has two key squares: b7 and b8 for an a-pawn, and g7 and g8 for an h-pawn. The key squares are indicated by the black dots in the position in the diagram on the right:

  • 6 months ago · Quote · #10

    tarikhk

    musikamole, you're confusing two things. An 'outside passed pawn' is one that is far away from the majority of pawns- it can be a rook pawn, or a knight or a bishop pawn as long as it is far away from the bulk of pawns. It's strength lies in that the king can't be two places at once and has to rush over to stop it, while you munch on enemy pawns on his side. Strive to create them in your games.


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