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Eliminating players from tournaments


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    Garry

    Is it reasonable to eliminate players after the first round of a tournament if their  rating has gone sky high?

    For example a tournament for 1300 - 1650 rated players and after the first round 1 is 2200+  and 3 are 1800+

    Any thoughts please

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    Garry

    But is it reasonable for the TD to eliminate them from the next round?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    IvanSki

    IMHO a climb of 150 in rating is an amazing feat - an increase of 600 in less than 2 months defies the laws of probability and is HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS to say the least.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    IvanSki

    I would be interested in a survey of titled players as to how many of them "suddenly" had such an extreme jump in rating.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    DrBobR

    Garry wrote:

    Is it reasonable to eliminate players after the first round of a tournament if their  rating has gone sky high?

    For example a tournament for 1300 - 1650 rated players and after the first round 1 is 2200+  and 3 are 1800+

    Any thoughts please


    I think you can control that by requiring the players have played at least 50 games. BTW I can't find your "new" tournament. I keep getting redirected to current tournament.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    3EC

    No i dont understand you at all. What is your problem if my rate is high. I played hundreds of games in short time. Do the same if you want. I have a 0% time out! I have an average 1h 27 min per move!!!! and i was never on vacation! I am premium member and the system had me automatically on vacation for protection few hours before i had to move and i moved on time. Please add me back in tournament if you are an honest person. And send this comments to the tournament page. For me is not important to win this tournament since iam into over 60 tournaments but i want to continue in the tournament since i already played many games.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    tderifield

    My opinion on this is that if you join a tournament and then find yourself much higher than the agreed starting rating range it would probably be polite to remove yourself from the tournament.  Then again, I can see players saying that they entered the tournament with the appropriate rating and it isn't their fault if they are that good.  I guess the real question for 3EC is why is he playing?  Does he want to win a tournament and improve his game at the cost of possibly depriving other players of a chance to win and improve theirs or would he rather just play against opponents in his own range and challenge himself.  I would feel like I was a bit of a bully if I entered a tournament far lower than my rating and kept playing inferior opponents just to win the tournament because I play here to improve my game through experience.  

     

    I also have to agree that a jump in ratings on a website like this isn't really all that suspicious.  3EC obviously plays lots of games.  That is the difference between him and titled players is that they have fewer chances to play rated games than we have a chance to play "rated" games.  

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    tderifield

    Schachgeek wrote:
    Well, if they were to withdraw then they'd get an adverse mark on their record and lose rating points for withdrawing after committing to a tournament.

    I guess I wasn't aware that you would get a bad mark on your record and lose rating points for quitting a tournament.  

     

    I agree that ratings aren't static, but players should try to only join tournaments they are pretty sure are within their rating range.  For instance, I know I am about an 1100 to 1250 player regardless of the rating chess.com gives me so I wouldn't try to enter a 1600-2000 tourney or a 750-900 tourney.  Such sportsmanship should be expected of anyone without the need for the TD to throw them out or some such thing.  I guess I feel there is a big difference between someone rated 500 points higher than the class playing in a tournament and someone being a few hundred points out playing.  Perhaps I am wrong!

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    3EC

    I do understand that here in this tournament there is a lot of talking and no chess.

    These are my last comments: I am palying chess in real chess clubs. I am training for  3-7 hours a day. At chess.com i am playing for fun and training and i love it. My real rating is higher than my current here. I am playing hundreds of games per week at chess com and other places. On the top of that i have done 55 full hours training with chess.com mentor in the last 2 months even if i have done hundreads of hours training for years.  This tournament is not mportant to me. i dont even remember how i entered it. There are hundreds of tournamnets at chess.com anyway. IMPORTANT is that one cannot remove someone from the tournament for any reason unless a specific rule is placed in advance. Otherwise its  not a tournament but a comedy. Good luck!.


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