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Excellent idea to speed up tournaments!


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    Apollo33

    In the comments for the 8th Tournament, 1401-1600 group, a guy named dedmoroz made an excellent suggestion.  Perhaps it has been discussed before, but I don't know.  His idea is that the next round of the tournament could (and I think should) start as soon as all the winners of the groups have been determined from a mathematical perspective, i.e. as soon as no one else in the group could beat them even if they won all their games.  (I assume we would also want to wait for the winners to finish all of their games, so they don't end up with even more than 10 games for a single tournament.)

    I want to also add that you could even calculate winners by tiebreak in advance (at least in certain situations).  For example, in my group I have 8/10 and there's a guy with 6/10 and 2 games left, but even if he wins both he'll have a lower tiebreak score, so my group is still mathematically determined despite the simple analysis of a possible tie.

    So has this idea been discussed and considered by the Chess.com people?  It would make tournaments go MUCH faster and make everyone happier, I think.  (I wish we could make a poll to vote on it.)

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    artfizz

    There is nothing new under the sun - see speeding-up-multi-round-tournaments.

    What would happen if the uncatchable leaders closed their accounts or were found to be cheating - before all the games in the round were completed?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    artfizz

    ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

    I recall a posting awhile back where Erik was looking for actual examples. I know it's not hard to construct an example (20 person tournament, 10 person groups, one game left between people #5 and #6 with 1 person advancing), but he was looking for more like "here is the url to the tournament which qualifies".


    how-to-speed-up-tournaments---help

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    Apollo33

    Thanks, artfizz.  I didn't really bother to search... guess it would've saved me some typing time Smile

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    artfizz

    Apollo33 wrote: Thanks, artfizz.  I didn't really bother to search... guess it would've saved me some typing time

    and deprived the rest of us of a little nostalgia?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    rooperi

    Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.....

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    bigpoison

    rooperi wrote:

    Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.....


    Yeah, it's so crowded that nobody goes there anymore.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    artfizz

    rooperi wrote: Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.....

    bigpoison wrote: Yeah, it's so crowded that nobody goes there anymore.


    It's déjà vu all over again.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    Apollo33

    Maybe this wouldn't help as much as I suspected.  Looking at the tournament I'm in, there are only 45 games left out of 5460 (0.8%), and probably only half of the remaining groups could be decided by calculation.  It still might be possible to save a few weeks, though... I'll try to take notice.


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