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Give Less Vacation Time


  • 4 years ago · Quote · #1

    LuckyFelix

    The abuse of vacation time is common.  Tournament games with obviously lost positions can be extended for months with vacation time.  Couldn't we decrease the amount of vacation time given?  People can access their games from anywhere, how long a vacation is ever really necessary? 

    I generally choose no vacation tournaments at fast time controls.  But, I still think way too much vacation is available to those who would abuse it in the slower tournaments, many of which I would like to participate in.

    Generally, I love chess.com but this is an area which needs to be improved.

    Gratefully,

    Joe 

     "LuckyFelix"

  • 4 years ago · Quote · #2

    Martin_Stahl

    There is nothing out there stopping anyone from creating 14 days/move tournaments with No-Vacation, though I agree that it can get out of hand. You just wait until a move comes in and move on to the next game.

    However, I don't think limiting vacation gained is really the answer. If I have to be away from the site for an extended period of time, there is no guarantee I will be able to get on and make moves. And with tournaments lasting a long time, you can't really plan it so that you don't have an active game when you want to go on vacation or have an emergency.

    Maybe there could be a slightly smaller ceiling for vacations but I think 2 days per month isn't too much to get. And eventually, vacation will run out. Also, if someone is prolonging a truly lost game by using vacation time, then it can be reported.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #3

    JPatSoCal

    I'm with Lucky on this one.  I am in one tournament now that has been running 14 months.  In round 3, there has been only one game remaining for the last two months...and one of the players has just gone on vacation, and has a month of vacation time.  This is ludicrous.

    And there is no solution in the current framework, regardless of what staff says.  I play 'no vacation' tournaments, but at the end of the year will be out of the country for twoweeks.  While I will be able to make some moves during that time, probably not within the 24 hour window I usually choose.  Choosing tournaments that last for two years because of my inability to get on line consistently during two weeks seems ridiculous. 

    But there IS a simple solution:  Players accrue vacation time just as they do now.  BUT Tournament Directors, rather than faced with an 'all-or-none' choice, can set a cap on how much vacation can be spent by players in their tournament.  Thus I can join a tournament with 24 hour moves, max vacation of a week.  Nobody can truly artificially extend the tournament, but they get a pass if they miss making a few moves right on time.

    What do you folks think?  If we can get the idea rolling we could rally behind it and get the staff to fix it.  It is my #1 complaint with the site.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #4

    LuckyFelix

    Good luck JPat!

    I've given up on trying to get some change.  I just play No Vacation tourneys, or surrender hope of faster play.  I hope you get a better response with your ideas.   I don't think anyone really needs to go on vacation for months at a time. Internet connections are available almost everywhere.  Vacation time should be capped.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #5

    buho

    I used vacations but just for 4 days and I've finished more games than 2 other players that didn't took vacations.

    I think a week should be the maximum vacation time allowed for tourneys.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #6

    blowerd

    JPatSoCal wrote:

    I'm with Lucky on this one.  I am in one tournament now that has been running 14 months.  In round 3, there has been only one game remaining for the last two months...and one of the players has just gone on vacation, and has a month of vacation time.  This is ludicrous.

    And there is no solution in the current framework, regardless of what staff says.  I play 'no vacation' tournaments, but at the end of the year will be out of the country for twoweeks.  While I will be able to make some moves during that time, probably not within the 24 hour window I usually choose.  Choosing tournaments that last for two years because of my inability to get on line consistently during two weeks seems ridiculous. 

    But there IS a simple solution:  Players accrue vacation time just as they do now.  BUT Tournament Directors, rather than faced with an 'all-or-none' choice, can set a cap on how much vacation can be spent by players in their tournament.  Thus I can join a tournament with 24 hour moves, max vacation of a week.  Nobody can truly artificially extend the tournament, but they get a pass if they miss making a few moves right on time.

    What do you folks think?  If we can get the idea rolling we could rally behind it and get the staff to fix it.  It is my #1 complaint with the site.

    Is there a link to this current tournament? 

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #7

    JPatSoCal

    Sure.  Here's the link:

    http://www.chess.com/tournament/alekhine-defence-tournament

    I did misstate one thing--tournament is still in Round 2, it is waiting on one game before we all move to round 3.

  • 3 years ago · Quote · #8

    CabassoG

    I agree with a max vacation time per tournament idea.


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