I noticed that as a gold member I can create tournaments with up to 12 people. Fine, if I want more then I pay more. However, it would be nice if gold members could create 2 groups instead of only 1. Because 11 or 22 simultaneous games is impractical for many. For me personally, the upper limit of 12 is useless as it stands now, but would be great if divided over 2 groups. What do others think?

This sounds reasonable to me.

deeper membership affords greater felxibility

I upped my gold to platignum so that i could create invite only tourneys

as a side benefit i was able to make a friend happy by donating them a gold membership.

As in all things in life accept the great freebies but be prepared to pay for the extras you desire.

be prepared to pay for the extras you desire.

Yes of course. I already said, fine, if I want more then I pay more.

But I feel that the feature I have with gold to create a tourney for 12 is almost useless without the ability to split into 2 groups. 

In other words: I am trying to suggest an improvement. 

I agree links, and I have had to resort to making several tournaments for my group, but labeling them Group A, B, C and D... and so on, you get the idea, because of this set back!

You asked for the thoughts of others and then seemed to take offense when it was offered - as in your response to the reply from PerfectGent. 

Why do you find the limit of 12 to be impractical and useless?

No, I did not take offence, I even agreed with the poster! Pay more if you want more! For me personally I find a tournament unattractive if it forces you to play 11 or 22 simultaneous games. A simple solution would be to create 2 groups. 

EagleHeart wrote:

Why do you find the limit of 12 to be impractical and useless?

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 He says 11 or 22 simultaneous games are impractical for many.  I would tend to agree with him.  Groups would fix that.

Yes, this came about because of my Dutch Defense tourney that I wanted 12 members in, but like he said, the amount of games is hefty.  And two groups, that is not a lot to ask for, much different than unlimited.  It is very practical I believe.  Linksspringer, at first I didn't see things like this, but I totally agree with you on this.  I will write Erik and ask him if this is possible.  I know, shifting the rules, but since we do have 12 people in a group, maybe he could give the access to 2 groups of 6. 

linksspringer wrote:

In other words: I am trying to suggest an improvement. 

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 No you are trying to suggest extra flexibility over the already great choice you have for free,

This site provides the best choice at no cost  that you will find anywhere.

so instead of complaining about the restriction of FREE options, rather say thank you Erik and team for such a great free service for all the options they do provide.

thank you Erik and team for such a great free service for all the options you do provide. (and the great options for gold members) (and I mean that)

 

So we disagree. I think I am suggesting an improvement and you think I am asking for freebees. 

PerfectGent wrote: linksspringer wrote:

In other words: I am trying to suggest an improvement. 

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 No you are trying to suggest extra flexibility over the already great choice you have for free,

This site provides the best choice at no cost  that you will find anywhere.

so instead of complaining about the restriction of FREE options, rather say thank you Erik and team for such a great free service for all the options they do provide.

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 i do agree with perfectgent because of what you get for free,i myself have setup tourney with 11 or 22 games at once would like to split into groups,but we do get alot for what we pay, my suggestion is to have that as a extra you could add for a few extra dollars

I agree with you links. It is nice that a gold member can make a tournament, but to not to be able to make groups (even if it is limited at 2) does not make much sense (other than to encourage folks to buy the next level of membership, which I understand). 

Personally, this issue has been a deterrent for me to create a tournament and I won't join tournaments that have that many games playing at one time. Especially, since one of the benefits of a gold membership is to be able to join 10 tourneys at one time.  

This is not really complaining but suggestions and justifying the suggestions. Suggestions like this should be allowed since we are paying customers and this is a business (a new one at that). 

 

PerfectGent, I thought we were talking about services for the paying members, not the free services. Are you on the same page as us, or am I the one not understanding.

Checkers4Me wrote:

I agree with you links. It is nice that a gold member can make a tournament, but to not to be able to make groups (even if it is limited at 2) does not make much sense (other than to encourage folks to buy the next level of membership, which I understand). 

Personally, this issue has been a deterrent for me to create a tournament and I won't join tournaments that have that many games playing at one time. Especially, since one of the benefits of a gold membership is to be able to join 10 tourneys at one time.  

This is not really complaining but suggestions and justifying the suggestions. Suggestions like this should be allowed since we are paying customers and this is a business (a new one at that). 

 

PerfectGent, I thought we were talking about services for the paying members, not the free services. Are you on the same page as us, or am I the one not understanding.

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 what perfecgent is saying that this site gives you extra stuff for free which you do not have to pay for and asking for more free stuff is not right 

PerfectGent wrote: linksspringer wrote:

In other words: I am trying to suggest an improvement. 

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 No you are trying to suggest extra flexibility over the already great choice you have for free,

This site provides the best choice at no cost  that you will find anywhere.

so instead of complaining about the restriction of FREE options, rather say thank you Erik and team for such a great free service for all the options they do provide.

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Uhmmm... He's already paying for 12 people tournaments, he just wants to be able to split them into at least 2 groups.

Perfectgent, one of the reasons I joined this website was the flexibility it offered.  Erik is a very reasonable person to talk to.  I am not saying that he will accept my offer (I asked him personally about this).  But I bought membership to this website because I saw the nature of it - it really is flexible, and a community.

The comments you make are cold and dry in my opinion.  You have no bend, and you expect that anyone who offers a new idea should be hushed, pushed into a corner and told to keep quiet unless they have more money. 

Why not, instead of telling Linksspringer to pay up, try to see him out?  We are asking for a simple modification to what we already are allowed - 12 entries to a tourney.  Why NOT have more than one group? 

Seeing this change surely would be all the more inspiration in the future to buy a platinum or diamond membership to me.  I would see that my ideas are valued, and that I am a valuable asset to the community. 

The idea is not unreasonable nor irrational.  I am sorry that you don't see it our way, but in sales, the idea is flexibility, and you aren't being very flexible in your ideas.

haha of course he doesnt agree.  Even though it either doesnt affect him, or will make the site better for him with a better choice of tourneys to join, he cant agree because he's already spent more on a higher membership that he feels will be devalued if the cheaper memberships gain more flexibility even though he would still require an upgrade for what he wanted. 

Wayne - It is my understanding that the staff of this site welcome suggestions, comments and concerns. This is a small change to a service we already pay for. There is still an incentive to purchase the higher up memberships. This suggestions is really meant to make a service we pay for a little more pratical.

i have heard :) i will consider the ability to split up into smaller groups. but it won't happen for a while - we are pushing hard on other things like group tournaments, etc.

Thanks erik! This site just gets better and better!