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  • 2 years ago · Quote · #1

    yoursisnodisgrace

    I decided to join a tournement and received this message.

    You must have a timeout ratio lower than 10% to play in this tournament

    I have never lost a game due to time.  I always make my moves on a timely basis.  WHy am I receiveing this message.  WHere do I look to determine my timeout ratio and how do I go about correcting it.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #2

    kco

    is on your online chess profile

    All Games
    Total Games: 201
    In Progress: 9
    Timeouts: 11% (last 90 days)
    Time/Move: 4 hrs 55 mins
  • 2 years ago · Quote · #3

    Spuczan

    Ok I have similar problem. And my question is:

    How I can make my TO less then 10%? I lost 6 games in my first tournament because I didn't get to my computer at time.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #4

    yoursisnodisgrace

    Now I am moving faster but the % does not drop.  It is over 10% so so I can not join any tournements.  What would you suggest? 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #5

    kco

    play live chess ?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #6

    TadDude

    rockerman wrote:

    Now I am moving faster but the % does not drop.  It is over 10% so so I can not join any tournements.  What would you suggest? 


    It is almost impossible to play your way out of a timeout problem. You have to replace the non-timeout games falling out of the 90 day window with new non-timeout games just to stay the same. You have to add more non-timeout games to lower the percentage.

    Wait up to 90 days for the timed out games to fall out the window. Do not time out in that period.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #7

    yoursisnodisgrace

    OK  but I do not have any time out games.  I paly mainly tournements.  DO all games carry the same weight?  An earlier comment suggested playing live games.  I would think this would definitely improve the time per move.  Does that make sense?

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #8

    TadDude

    rockerman wrote:

    OK  but I do not have any time out games.  I paly mainly tournements.  DO all games carry the same weight?  An earlier comment suggested playing live games.  I would think this would definitely improve the time per move.  Does that make sense?


    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=48345031

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=48345015

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=48345024

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=48345023

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=48327212

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=47706313

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=47706308

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=47353827

    http://www.chess.com/echess/game.html?id=47202699

    All online games in the last 90 days count the same.

    I think the suggestion was to play live games while you wait. Timeouts in live are normal and have no impact on timeout %.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #9

    kco

    "liar liar your pants on fire" 

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #10

    BlueKnightShade

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  • 2 years ago · Quote · #11

    PrawnEatsPrawn

    kco wrote:

    "liar liar your pants on fire" 


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #12

    tynmar

    I am frustrated because i too have a +10% timeout ratio from my first in-line games....i made the mistake of playing games with 1 day per move which due to my working and personal life is impossible....i have just completed the first round of the 13th tournament and want to play more while i wait for the 2nd round to start.....but i am being barred from 2-3 day tournaments because i have a life away from this site which meant i lost a number of games on the same day because i couldn't get back to my laptop within 24 hours......

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #13

    BlueKnightShade

    For that reason I never play online tournaments with 24 hours time limit, and I am very reluctant to play those with 3 days also, although I have done that now and then. Best is 7 days even if you normally check and move everyday. You never know whether you one or two months later has a peiode with no chess playing on line for several days and the next round of the tournament happens to start in that periode.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #14

    tynmar

    I find 2-3 days are fine, although i think i may have a problem when i go on my annual holidays...i suppose i may need to find an internet cafe....i am all for rules but sometimes they can be inflexible and punish the wrong people if rigidly enforced.....newbies should be encouraged to play tournaments not prevented just because they didn't understand the consequence of their first faltering steps....you don't strap a toddler in a chair to stop them from walking because they happen to have a high fall-down ratio....

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #15

    tynmar

    Also, if this is such an issue, why doesn't the tournaments announced the timeout limit on the main page so that we don't waste our time trying to join....it is so disappointing when you've looked at the background to a tournament and then, after deciding you would like to join, you get the announcement telling you you can't.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #16

    TadDude

    tynmar wrote:

    Also, if this is such an issue, why doesn't the tournaments announced the timeout limit on the main page so that we don't waste our time trying to join....it is so disappointing when you've looked at the background to a tournament and then, after deciding you would like to join, you get the announcement telling you you can't.


    This is a regular request but appears to be a low priority.

    Some TDs will put it in the description. Usually done when it is higher than the default 10% so the tournament can attract participants such as yourself. When you get below 10% avoid these tournaments.

    You can still try joining them all, as some TDs change the default percentage and do not disclose. This way players with a good timeout % will not know to avoid the tournament.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #17

    tynmar

    Cheers for that. The thing is, i want to play a 960 game and can't until i play tournaments and i can't play tournaments until I lose the time-outs. It seems unfair that I am barred from 2-3 day games because I defaulted on a number of 1 day games....they were the first ones I played and I didn't realise that one day I would lose them because I couldn't get home in time to make my next move in time...they were lost on the same afternoon while I was out with my family....so not exactly a recurring offender.....

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #18

    yoursisnodisgrace

    Is there somewhere that I can see the detail for my time/move.   It would be nice to see exactly what caused my rating to increase.  I was told that the percentage of games lost due to time must be less than 10% of the games played in the last the last 90 days.   

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #19

    TadDude

    rockerman wrote:

    Is there somewhere that I can see the detail for my time/move.   It would be nice to see exactly what caused my rating to increase.  I was told that the percentage of games lost due to time must be less than 10% of the games played in the last the last 90 days.   


    The details you want are here  http://www.chess.com/echess/profile/rockerman

    All Games

    Total Games: 217
    In Progress: 10
    Timeouts: 11% (last 90 days)
    Time/Move: 4 hrs 48 mins

    But it is not time/move you need concern yourself about.

    This player takes more than two days per move but currently has no time outs in the last 90 days.  http://www.chess.com/echess/profile/bhavik1984

    All Games

    Total Games: 958
    In Progress: 816
    Timeouts: 0% (last 90 days)
    Time/Move: 2 days 9 hrs

    As you are currently a premium member, you have time out protection, if you have any vacation time available. Avoid no-vacation tournaments.


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