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8th July 2008, 06:01am
#1
by more_coffee
Nottingham United Kingdom
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 8

In a group tournament, i think if someone times out against one appointment they should forefeit all their games as if they have withdrawn. otherwise if they time out against one opponent but not others it could affect the final standings. What do others think?

 


8th July 2008, 07:48am
#2
by Patzer24
United States
Member Since: Jun 2007
Member Points: 7992
Well losing on time is part of chess and it can happen to anyone at any time. I do not see a reason why what you state above should occur. Now if someone is intentionally losing on time in one of the games and not others to intentionally manipulate the standings then that is a problem and we can deal with that on a case by case basis. But I feel this is a very rare problem if it even exists at all.
8th July 2008, 08:37am
#3
by gramos9956
United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 143

I would wonder why anybody would want to intentionally time out in order to influence the standings; I guess unless they are teaming up with another opponent to help that other opponent get higher in the standings and either win or advance to the next round.  Then, I guess the "favor" is reciprocated in a future tournament?  Even then, why time out?  Seems to me the person would get the same result by intentionally resigning or drawing a game that is not lost or drawn, respectively (and not increase their timeout percentage; and also not hurt their rating, if done early enough in the game), or by withdrawing from the tournament.  Maybe I am missing something; I don't know.

On the other hand, I have heard of people intentionally losing or timing out in order to lower their ratings so they can qualify for tournaments against lower rated players; thus increasing the likelihood of winning the tournament.  Still doesn't make sense to me, though; unless, I guess, to some, winning a tournament is that important to them.  Seems a shame to me for people to intentionally lose or time out for that reason (or any other, for that matter).

Take care,

George

 


8th July 2008, 08:44am
#4
by more_coffee
Nottingham United Kingdom
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 8
i don't think people intentionally time out, it just seems a little unfair if one or two players in a tournament group get free points if an opponent times out against them, but not against other players in the same group. I agree it's probably not common, since most people seem to time out all their games at once. Anyway, thanks for the comments.
8th July 2008, 09:12am
#5
by Checkers4Me
Cincinnati United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 298

I have to respectfully disagree. I do not think that the other people in my group should benefit from what happens between my opponent and myself. If my opponent times out against me and not you, then that's tough (I know it sucks, it has actually happened to me). Time control is part of the game.

 


 

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