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7th January 2009, 03:37pm
#1
by novice543
Houston,TX United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 211

Well, I went to my very first tournament a couple days ago, and this kid (my opponent actually) told me that I could not promote my pawn, and so I didn't. In the end I ended up beating him, and I got 2nd place in the unrated section. But what I actually want to know is; Did I get played, or was he right when he said that I could't promote my pawn?

7th January 2009, 03:46pm
#2
by Goatnotsheep
Brampton Canada
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 299

I'm not sure i understand.
Was it, you couldn't promote your pawn cause it was illegal? (eg, if u move ur pawn down, his bishop checks you or something) Or was it like, him just not wanting u to get a queen.
If it was just him not wanting u to get a queen, then, well, you dont actually ahve to listen to him. EIther way, u beat him right?

7th January 2009, 03:54pm
#3
by pdmura
Glendale, AZ United States
Member Since: Jun 2008
Member Points: 368

I would have expected that if promoting the pawn was an illegal move, the site would not have accepted it.  It seems unusual for an opponent to make a suggestion and I probably would not have paid attention to it.

7th January 2009, 03:59pm
#4
by xMenace
Rothesay, NB Canada
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 846

What was the position? I assume you recorded it¿

7th January 2009, 05:30pm
#5
by novice543
Houston,TX United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 211
Goatnotsheep wrote:

I'm not sure i understand.
Was it, you couldn't promote your pawn cause it was illegal? (eg, if u move ur pawn down, his bishop checks you or something) Or was it like, him just not wanting u to get a queen.
If it was just him not wanting u to get a queen, then, well, you dont actually ahve to listen to him. EIther way, u beat him right?


yes, I did beat him, but it wasn't an illegal move, and I wasn't sure f he was lying or not cuz it was my first tournament

7th January 2009, 05:32pm
#6
by novice543
Houston,TX United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 211
pdmura wrote:

I would have expected that if promoting the pawn was an illegal move, the site would not have accepted it.  It seems unusual for an opponent to make a suggestion and I probably would not have paid attention to it.


it wasn't an illegal move and I was playing in an actual tournament, not on Chess.com

7th January 2009, 05:33pm
#7
by novice543
Houston,TX United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 211
xMenace wrote:

What was the position? I assume you recorded it¿


no I didn't, I was just playing in the unrated section

7th January 2009, 05:48pm
#8
by Raibutai
Clemson United States
Member Since: Sep 2008
Member Points: 189

Wow... Why did you listen to him? He just didn't want you to get a queen... Wow. Just wow.

7th January 2009, 05:49pm
#9
by nqi
Southland New Zealand
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 558

Sounds suspiciously like he was trying to cheat to me. Good work for beating him anyway though.

7th January 2009, 09:25pm
#10
by BorgQueen
Adelaide Australia
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 5082

Yeah, sounds like a ploy to try and salvage an embarrassing loss.  Good work on beating him anyway, but next time, promote the pawn and see what happens ;)

7th January 2009, 09:35pm
#11
by xMenace
Rothesay, NB Canada
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 846

Record your games, even in unrated events. not only will it protect you in disputes, but you can take the game home, analyze it, and learn from it. better yet you can play it over with your opponent afterwards and find out his thoughts and ideas.

9th January 2009, 10:32am
#12
by Hugh_T_Patterson
San Francisco, CA United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 1324

Keep a record of all games. It allows you to analyze them and deal with any disputes that arise. It sounds like this kid needed a swift kick in the pants. Personally, I would have made him wear a dunce cap that said "I can never get promoted because I'm too much of an idiot." Of course, I'm sure the tournament officials wouldn't approve. What a brazen more on the kid's part. Little bastard!

9th January 2009, 10:57am
#13
by DimKnight
Connecticut United States
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 344

Clearly, you got conned by this kid. If, as I assume, this was a USCF tournament, you could have 1) stopped your clock and 2) contacted a tournament director (TD) for clarification.

I've heard kids say some ridiculous things at tournaments; though in fairness, the three or four worst things came out of the mouth of one obnoxious kid I sat next to at a large regional tournament a couple of years back. But one thing I hear not infrequently is that, if you promote your pawn and need an extra queen, using an upside-down rook means that your promoted piece is, in fact, a rook. This is a lot of nonsense, and the USCF rulebook has a specific section (8F7, if I remember correctly) clarifying it.

9th January 2009, 11:12am
#14
by uritbon
tel aviv Israel
Member Since: Apr 2008
Member Points: 1001

at your level you should not believe or listen to anything that Patzers like that say!

they will stay stupid and pittyful Patzers, you should learn chess and advance! and not listen to opponents who try to cheat!

 

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