Transpositions into the BDG

 
30th May 2009, 12:14pm
#1
by sirprim
Germany
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 375

Hello Everybody,

as the title suggests, i am interested in transpositions into the BDG. I try to play attacking chess, but i play 1.e4 rather than 1.d4 usually, so i don't play the BDG that often. But i am thinking about learning the BDG to avoid defensive opening choices against 1.e4, for example: If my opponent tries to avoid theory by playing 1. ... d5 (the Scandinavian), i might transpose to the BDG with 2.d4.

Other possibilties: 

The Caro-Kann Player

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The French Player

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So basically my question is: Do you know other possible transpositions for e4 players? Is there a way to play BDG in the Rubinstein French (one might play a3 to prevent Bb4, but it wastes a valuable tempo)

Thanks in advance,

sirprim

P.S.: I already have opening choices against e5/c5 and i play d6/g6 (Pirc/Modern) as black myself, so i am comfortable playing these as white, too. But i want to crack these defensive openings c6/e6/d5

30th May 2009, 12:25pm
#2
by DrawMaster
United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 551

In the French, one can play 3.Be3!?, the Alapin French to generate a different type of BDG-like game: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Be3!? dxe 4.Nd2.

31st May 2009, 03:06am
#3
by Eventhorizon
Psychonaut City Germany
Member Since: Mar 2008
Member Points: 224

Not at any cost B.D.!

Some of my latest games run like that: 1.d4 d5 2.e4 c6 3. ed cd 4. c4 Panow is also a strong attack!

31st May 2009, 04:24am
#4
by sirprim
Germany
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 375

You might be right about the Panov being a strong variation for white, probably stronger than the BDG. But my motivation for going into a BDG is different:

1. I want to cut down theory myself. There seem to be ways to reach BDG like positions via d5/c6/e6. That way i have to learn one opening against these choices instead of three.

2. The BDG is more likely to get my opponent "out of book" than the Panov. This is something i personally like

18th June 2009, 07:51am
#5
by DrawMaster
United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 551

Having played the Black side of the Caro-Kann many times as a low-rated amateur, Eventhorizon's post just reminded me of the cold sweats I used to get when White whipped out the Panov-Botvinnik Attack!Cry

19th November 2009, 05:41am
#6
by Dema
Italy
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 123

Karo Cann fantasy var:

1.e4 c6

2.d4 d5

3.Nc3 dxe4

4.f3

and you go into a simil_BDG line

28th November 2009, 10:54pm
#7
by BillyIdle
Humboldt Park, Chicago United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 3861

That is very interesting, leaving the Scandinavian lines for the Blackmar- Diemer.  I never thought of it.

Don't think you need to play a3 with White against the French.  Would you play a3 against the Nimzo-Indian?  Waste of time.

Openings don't win chess games (especially against all those database moves).  Even the Blackmar-Diemer will run up against chess databases.  Click your mouse.  Let the computer tell you what to do.  It is not really chess, but why bother?  People who don't like to make their own moves can be robots.

You have a more than valid point here.  It may be better to begin 1.e4.  That way chess players may be fooled and unable to recognize the Blackmar-Diemer and find it in the databases.  That is like in the old days when we were actually able to catch the unsuspecting in our chess traps.  Databases do not even let you know a trap is there.  They tell you the best moves, not the worst moves. 

 

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