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Caruana to Play in 2013 US Champs?

  • SonofPearl
  • on 12/13/12, 2:22 PM.

fabiano caruana 6 larger.jpgThe 20 year-old Italian-American Grandmaster Fabiano Caruana has expressed an interest in playing in the 2013 US Chess Championships.

Caruana was born in Miami but relocated to Europe with his family when he was 12. He is now rated #5 in the world, and is the world's strongest junior by a wide margin.

However, it is unclear whether Caruana would be eligible to play. Despite having dual citizenship of the US and Italy, the US Championship is regarded as a Zonal event by FIDE, and since Caruana plays for Italy he may not be eligible to take part.

If Caruana took part in the 2013 US Championships it would certainly add an extra dimension to the event, but should he be allowed to play? Have your say in the comments...

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  • 22 months ago

    cgk

    Living isn't argument for play in this level and ever the citizen title (if was so, the russian Sharapova never could't play for his natural country and once she made the option, she can't go to one or another. Imagine. If was so, US came ever with the best sportsplayer in the world, because his citizen title is ofer for all people who US have interest. To give chance for all people in the world, that chees player that have 2 or more citezen title must have a simple international option, for two principal reason: one, because is an option of a relative advantage from his subject meaning and must be made one time only, form one federartion (so is in all sports like soccer, tenis, and so on; remember the polemic with Deco in Portugal soccer); the other reason is to give more oportunity for recently GM and IM from all country, because we must incentivate the game of chees in all world.

  • 22 months ago

    LetsReason

    I support his playing in the US Championship.  He is a US citizen and that makes him eligible in my mind.

  • 22 months ago

    Kolob68

    Why does it matter where he chooses to live? He was born in Miami. He is a US Citizen. Therefore he is eligible. I hope he plays.

  • 22 months ago

    darius99

    He's got to be consistent; I think he already made up his mind toplay for Italy.  Nothing against him, though.

  • 22 months ago

    dezsoracz

    I think he should of done this earlier. How ever, better  Late then Never.  After all the USA is his native country!  No neen to make things more comlicated.

  • 22 months ago

    ClavierCavalier

    It's just the matter of rules.  Even if Anand lives in Spain, he still claims India as his home for chess.  Caruana has claimed Italian allegiance for a long time and plays for the Italian teams, including against the Americans in the Olympiad.  What he's doing is playing both sides here.

  • 22 months ago

    _valentin_

    "Why should the US bar US players from playing in US championship and making it a weak tournament."

    Wonderful question, and very eloquently put.

    The answer, as usual, is politics (if anything at all).  Rules are usually an excuse for political cover-ups (after all, rules are made by politicians) to give it an appearance of legitimacy, legality, order, etc.

  • 22 months ago

    FM dhaessel

    Let him play, he is the strongest American.

    Maybe he might not be eligeable to some of the prizes like the spot on the US Olympic team but who cares.

    Why should the US bar US players from playing in US championship and making it a weak tournament.

  • 22 months ago

    friendjonny

    I am OK with anybody playing for the US championship as long as they play internationally for the US. If Caurana wants to play in the US championship, that would be great, just as long as he switches federations first. 

  • 22 months ago

    WGM Natalia_Pogonina

    He has US citizenship, so why not. At some point we had a discussion in the RCF regarding allowing foreign players to compete at the Superfinal. Now they aren't allowed to. However, they can take part in other important events. For example, GM Socko from Poland has just won the Russian Cup.

    On the one hand, Caruana's participation will increase the prestigeousness of the event. On the other hand, I can see how certain players might be hurt by this, because they will experience tougher competition (hence lower chances to win the title/prizes), or even lose a spot in the Championship.

  • 22 months ago

    trlns

    As it stands, he shouldn't play since his allegience (Olympiad & National champs) is currently with Italy.

    That doesn't mean he couldn't switch his allegience back to the U.S. in future at which point he'd become eligible to play in the US championships.

    As with other sports, some transitional period would be required.

  • 22 months ago

    TaiwanGuy

    if he defected (lol) to the united states, the u.s. team at the next olympiad would be very formidable. caruana, nakamura,and kamsky are as strong a top 3 as pretty much any country could boast. i think if you average the ratings of the top 3 players from each nation, only russia (kramnik, karjakin, and grischuk) would be higher.

  • 22 months ago

    NM Petrosianic

    By the way Anna Zatonskih lives in Germany and thus plays events in Europe and not in the US, but plays the US Championships, but there is precedent for this in other endeavors for international competitors, as she represents the US in international play.

    Also if the US Championship is open to all US residents, then Michael Adams should attain an invitation as he resides in Florida for some months every year I have read.

  • 22 months ago

    NM Petrosianic

    It would be unusual for somebody to play Championships in two countries, particularly in the same year, possibly (Caruana played the Italian championships earlier in 2012) --- but the issue is playing in the US Championship despite playing for another country in international competition.  I think the decision should be simple - Caruana should not be able to play unless he changes his federation to US.  This is the US Championships, which implies US players, not the US Open.  I think it would be disingenuous of Caruana to play the US Championships despite playing for another federation in international competition.  It surprises me that there is an issue here.  Undoubtedly Caruana does indeed make the field stronger, but then all players regardless of international affiliation should be eligible for the US Championship, or some limiting criterion should be set here.

  • 22 months ago

    Appa

    Gata Kamsky , Hikaru Nakamura , Alekxander Onischuk , Timur Gareev all are inborn americans ! Winkeven Garry Kasparov & Magnus Carlsen is american because they were in the US 1 or 2 times !! due to lack of top notch chess players in their country ,US chess association should let Caruana play .

  • 22 months ago

    Paul_G

    @PhilipN: is a good point. However I still think that you might want to play in the US. Maybe she wants to bring some of his "star power" to a country that although having a rich chess history could still struggles for icons. I don't know I am just making conjecture. Hopefully he will come forth with his motivations.

  • 22 months ago

    Lawdoginator

    It seems that, as an American citizen and top chess player, he was invited. 

  • 22 months ago

    PhilipN

    @Paul_G:  If I remember correctly, Fabiano moved to Italy to take advantage of the chess opportunities that he couldn't find in the United States.  He has been the Italian champion.  Although he is a US/Italian dual citizen, his move to Italy was chess-motivated.

  • 22 months ago

    davidmelbourne

    The US Open is for US Citizens (and the Zegania Open is the Zeganian citizens...).

    If someone has dual citizenship, they have to choose which country they will represent in international competitions. Whichever country they represent is then the one in which they are a "chess-citizen". Same applies in most sports.

    If they have dual citizenship and represented one of those at international level and then wish to change 'chess-citizenship' to the other country...well, they are creating a headache for everyone.

    There needs to be a process to enable this that involves a) time - ie: a big gap from representing the previous country (in rugby, this is three years- and for a sport where your career is finished by 32 or so, its a steep tarriff) and b) be a part of the country's chess community (which goes to Danny's point about % of games). 

  • 22 months ago

    Paul_G

    Fabiano is only 20 years old and did not move to Italy until he was 12

     

    . So that means he has lived more than half of his life within the US. I'm assuming it was not his decision to move to Italy when he was a kid. He probably had to play for Italy in order to get in practice he needed to become as good as he is. Maybe now that he is older and in a position to make those types of decisions for himself he now wants to play for the US. For whatever reasons politics are most likely going to prevent this from happening.

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