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FIDE President Meets Gaddafi

  • SonofPearl
  • on 6/13/11, 11:50 AM.

FIDE president Kirsan Ilyumzhinov popped in to see an old friend in Tripoli on the 11th and 12th June; the Libyan president Muammar Gaddafi.

Gaddafi is struggling to hang on to power in a civil war in Libya, and the International Criminal Court has issued a warrant for his arrest for crimes against humanity.

Ilyumzhinov is visiting Libya as part of FIDE's "Year of Africa", promoting chess in the region.

He even had a game of chess with the Libyan leader for the cameras, as shown on Libyan State Television:


How could any sane person think this is good publicity for chess? The English Chess Federation has been the first to formally comment:

PRESS RELEASE: The English Chess Federation wishes to express, in the strongest possible terms, its condemnation of the recent visit by the President of FIDE (The World Chess Federation) to Libya on 11 and 12 June. Meeting with Colonel Gaddafi, at a time when there is virtually universal condemnation of his actions in his own country, brings chess into disrepute.

FIDE's own press release regarding the meeting is below:

Chess is not left behind in Libya

On 11 June FIDE President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov met with Dr. Mustafa Zaidi, Libyan Minister of Foreign Affairs, in Tripoli. Dr. Mustafa Zaidi came back from China where he had been on an official visit.

One may recall that the World Chess Championship 2004 took place in Tripoli, the Libyan Jamahiriya. 128 chess players from 64 countries participated in the competition, including the Russian Federation, China, the United States of America and Great Britain. GM Rustam Kasimdzhanov of Uzbekistan became the World Champion 2004 defeating Michael Adams of England in the finals.

During a warm conversation FIDE President thanked the Libyan Minister for his assistance in the FIDE activity. The Parties discussed the opportunities of their future mutual cooperation in the official international tournaments organization, FIDE Seminars for Arbiters and Trainers and the International FIDE Academy establishment to introduce FIDE programme "Chess in Schools". They also exchanged their opinions on the nowadays issues which interest both Parties.

On 12 June Kirsan Ilyumzhinov also met with Mr. Muammar Gaddafi's son Mr. Muhammad Gaddafi. He is the leader of the Libyan Olympic Committee. Other meetings have been also planned by the FIDE President.

Visit of the FIDE President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov to Libya is held in the frameworks of the Africa Year 2011 which has been declared by the World Chess Federation.

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  • 3 years ago

    3cardmonte

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  • 3 years ago

    skattman

    Shot him in the head with his own gold gun. Love it congrats Libya

  • 3 years ago

    skattman

    And brace yourself for a new republican President next year.

  • 3 years ago

    Seleucid

    It's gonna be back to presious metals as monetary standard. US Dollar will devalue. Martial Law will be imposed. The New World Order will come in. Brace yourselves folks!

  • 3 years ago

    man2remix

    Muammar Gaddafi is out and libya free at last .

  • 3 years ago

    Stene

    Obviously, things have changed.

    Country is destroyed, "MadMax revolutionaries" are pretending to run the country, oil contracts are signed several months ago ( they were enough "representative" to sign giving petrol to Kuwait!) and hey, be happy, French are eyeing Iran. Birds of pray will follow. And all that goes as democracy. Don't complain when band comes to play in your backyard. If you are quiet today, they will come to your living room tomorrow.

    Hugo Chavez wants Venezuelan gold back to Venezuela from UK I USA waults. Does it qualify Venezuela as a legitimate target for bombs?

    BTW, if world decides to go back to gold standard, South Africa will be tomorrow, for the birds of pray,  what Libya is today.

  • 3 years ago

    forrie

    how much havnt changed in Libya since June....

  • 3 years ago

    Stene

    This morning news shows Gadafi's sons. Who said "lie"? ROFL. Must be he is hiding next to the Iraq's plant for weapons for mass destruction. BTW, do you read or listen anything else or your propaganda. I was told USA is the most concerned with democracy. ( If there is oil there, if I can add.) See, democracy is flourishing in Nigeria.On that note, I was told that democratic Soudi Arabia will attack dictatorial Siria  with Womens' Motorised Brigade in it's first wave . ROFL.

    In both cases, Iraq and Libya it was just oil, oil and only oil. When you get your oil, you don't give a damn about democracy.

    And you, Americans, are buying story about democracy that justifies killing. You see, it is so funny to bomb a country into rubble just because they want to sell concessions to somebody else and before YOU must pay them what you owe them. So convenient.

  • 3 years ago

    skattman

    I guess Kirsan will no longer be going to Libya to play chess against Gaddafi or any of his sons for that matter. ROFL

  • 4 years ago

    forrie

    Its a good thing they met. Sometimes people are changed not by violence but a handshake over the board.

    And I want a copy of the game. Seems like either Kirsan is a good player or Ghaddafi is a poor player.

     

    Keep politics out of chess. When FIDE expelled apartheid South Africa from international participation it only had a negative effect on the chess career of our top players, including black players - so what was the use?

    I think that from now on all leaders must first play a game of chess before deciding to throw bombs.

  • 4 years ago

    Silvanes

    Thanks Valentin :D But I'm very surprised you know 8]

  • 4 years ago

    Yigor

    In the 2nd press release Kirsan precised: "I was asked" to go there. So, it was definitely a political mission. Probably asked by the Russian government with US consent.Cool

  • 4 years ago

    _valentin_

    Silvanovich:  We don't know.  He could be promoting chess (possibly, not likely) or he could be on a political mission (see my previous post, 2 messages down)...  Or something else...  We don't know; it's all speculation.

  • 4 years ago

    Silvanes

    But what I can't understand is what is FIDE President doing there? There is war in Libya, yes?

  • 4 years ago

    Yigor

    I agree with Valentin who explained the situation quite well imho.Cool

  • 4 years ago

    _valentin_

    A similar idea has already been expressed by others, but I'll say it again.  Here's a couple of leading questions to think about:

    1) What if the secret mission of Kirsan was to actually negotiate how and where Khadaffi would escape while leaving the country and thereby not killing his people any more? 

    Some might say that he shouldn't be allowed to escape.  But this would be taking things out of context.  At what cost do you want to capture him?  At the cost of many more people dying in his hands?  No.  So between the two options -- and they seem like realistic options -- it seems better for Khadaffi to somehow engineer an escape into oblivion and for his country to move on to better times.

    2) If the West (or whoever) actually realizes this and wishes to save the lives of Lybians, who would they send as a de-facto envoy under cover?  Why not someone who already has a good relationship with Khadaffi and who might actually stand a chance of being heard rather than dismissed? 

    It keeps the hands of western politicians "clean" (in the sense that they can't be accused publicly of negotiating with Khadaffi for his escape) and it might solve the humanitarian crisis problem.  Not to mention that Kirsan is actually a politician too, so seems an appropriate choice.

    So, if you admit the possibility of those two situations, wouldn't the action by Kirsan suddenly look like a courageous and noble act?  It would.  After all, he could be one of few people on the planet who has a chance to save many, many lives by virtue of having a good relationship with Khadaffi.  And this is a crucial realization -- because it shows that a good relationship can pay off, no matter whether it's with a saint or with a devil (metaphorically speaking).  Lots and lots of people on this forum have been denying this obvious benefit on the grounds that they [paraphrased] "don't want to have anything to do with a terrorist"...  Even if it would save people's lives, it seems...

    Therefore, since we don't know whether this is the case or not, we might assume that it is (or not), but we need to stop judging -- there's a very good chance that those judgements are all misplaced because of the above possibility.

  • 4 years ago

    Silvanes

    Haha :D:D

  • 4 years ago

    Yigor

    I wanna see his chess games with aliens on their starships!!!Laughing

  • 4 years ago

    Silvanes

    FIDE President vs. Gaddafi...I can't believe, lol lol lol :P:P:P

  • 4 years ago

    Yigor

    Well, it's not a religious forum here but I can explain how. Every human has a purely divine monad (the core of the soul) created directly by Almighty God. Any monad is just an individual drop of the same Ocean of Infinite Light potentially equivalent to the whole ocean, that is, Almighty God. This is Shankara's non-duality law (Shankara was a famous yogi and one of principal figures in all Hinduism).Smile

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