• 6 weeks ago


    If you are studying this, the following game is worth your while:

  • 2 months ago


    Really enjoyed video which gave me more insight to queen pawn opening

  • 3 months ago


    Interesting view!!

  • 12 months ago


    The 1st minute and a half of this video made me laugh.  I felt so guilty as a d4 player lol!

  • 4 years ago


    As a London Player, I certainly hope my opponents watch this video!  too funny...

  • 4 years ago


    playing 2.Bf4 doesn't change anything does it? (I know someone who plays this.)

  • 5 years ago


    Nice vido and instructive!! I have been studying the London from White perspective and this really helped balance out the ideas on both sides very well!

    Nively done... thanks!

  • 5 years ago


    good video

  • 5 years ago


  • 5 years ago


  • 5 years ago


    i like the london system:P

  • 5 years ago


    Very good and instructive, thank you.

  • 6 years ago


    I just noticed there's been some other discussion about the refutation to 6. Qc2 (see other posters below).  There's another slight correction to post on it.  

    1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. Bf4 c5 4. e3 Nc6 5. c3 Qb6 6. Qc2? 

    If 6...Bf5 immediately 7. d x c5! is a good move.  7...B x c2 8. c x b6 a x b6 9. Na3 Be4 10. Nb5 threatening fork so e.g. 10...Kd7.   Black's queenside pawns are terrible and white has active bishops and knights so it looks like there is some advantage to white here.

    Therefore first eliminate the possibility of 7. d x c5 with:

    6...c x d4! 7. c x d4 (or 7. e x d4) Bf5! 

    Now as in the video 8. Q x f5? Q x b2 9. Be2 e6! 10. Qd3 (no 10...c4 anymore) Q x a1 11. Qc2.   It is to no avail that the queen reaches c2 because black has 11...Ba3 (the b1 knight is pinned) after which 12...Qb2.  Preparing this bishop move rather than displacing the white queen from the b1 - h7 diagonal must be the key point of the tempo-gaining 9...e6.

    I guess it's a case of knowing 6. Qc2 is a terrible move, so never actually seeing it being played means the reason why it's a terrible move becomes a bit more obscure.  However, this line could lead to disaster without knowing the Ba3 resource!!

    Really good video, that's just a minor minor point to help the odd anti-London-system player get the edge.  

  • 6 years ago

    IM Kallatroh

    More interesting question in the diagram countchocula posted is 1.Nd6. Then 1...Bd6 2.Bd6 and I have to like the white bishop. And btw at 2:29 Qa5 fails to b4 because Nb4 us met by Bd2.

  • 6 years ago

    GM Shankland

    In general I don't comment on videos after the fact, but CountChocula asked a very legitimate question that I had in my notes but forgot to cover.

    After Nc7+ Kd7 The white knight is quite short on squares, and with moves like bd6 and/or Nh5 coming up, white is going to have to worry about his safety.

    And to DvSevan32- you're totally right. My bad, honest mistake.

  • 6 years ago


    Very good video!

  • 6 years ago


    In the position at 11:54 in the video, what if 10. Nc7+ ?  It seems uncomfortable for black, but is not addressed in the video.  Any feedback is appreciated.

  • 6 years ago


    i found over 700 master matches in the master database for the London System, right up to move 4, a fair number.

    I think the comment "unbelievably soild" is more of a factual observation than a compliment. Most of the comments were negative and you can tell Sam doesn't like the London System or any other passive d4 system. He's entitled to have this opinion, but you have to deal with any position you face in chess, no matter how awkward or negative. It happens in sport when teams are ultra defensive, it's just a fact of life that has to be dealt with, not moaned about.

  • 6 years ago


    he calls it "unbelievably solid" so hes not exactly bashing it evan... and Im wondering where are all the london system games at the GM level youre mentioning. It was seen a little at a blitz tournament a while back but in serious competition it is very, very rare.


    my GM db says that after 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6  white plays 3.c4 over eight thousand times whereas 3.Bf4 gets played only 500 times. that 8k is not even including all the GMs who played c4 right away on the second move. the difference in % is 5, which is rather large for that level.

    so although very solid at any level its not going to be used at a higher level often, when they want to win as white. perfectly playable and great at class level where you can whip people IMO

  • 6 years ago


    Good video.

    But, to say that white isn't playing for an advantage on move 3 or 4 in the London System is unfair and misleading. To say it's "Unprofessional" is harsh and a bit insulting. Why don't you tell all the GMs who play the London System and regularly win with it that they are playing in an "Unprofessional" way. White still gets plenty of opportunities to attack after mover 3 and 4. The London System is often solid, slow and stodgy, but the game often opens up (as you have shown) and often leads to exciting games, of which I have played many.

    Why criticise a tried and trusted opening that has many GMs as devotees???

Back to Top

Post your reply: