Chaturaji Analysis (For real games)

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How am I supposed to defend against this? I have lost many times against this and f2, f3, and f4 all seem to lead to checkmate within a few moves. Am I missing something?

The image keeps disappearing, so the situation I am referencing is when both players directly next to you move their king pawns up one and prepare to check you. When only one player does this it is easy to get out of it, but when both players do it seems to me that it is almost certain mate.

Here is a game of mine for reference: https://www.chess.com/variants/chaturaji/game/90357368/3/1

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I dont see any solution in that case.
The problem is, that blue is mate and doesnt attack yellow.
Otherwise there might be options.

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If both players do move their bishops up like that though, what is the best option? Is it moving the king's pawn like I did in that game?

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Moving kings pawn is the only secure move as far as I know.
Of cause everything depends especially on blues moves.

But if red and yellow intend to mate green, King pawn is the move to push mat some moves away.

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My understanding is that with perfect teaming between red and yellow, green is almost guaranteed to be mated (reference: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/using-maths-to-ruin-chaturaji-or-mathematical-game-theory). I think king's pawn is the only move in that situation.

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Bird-Seed wrote:

My understanding is that with perfect teaming between red and yellow, green is almost guaranteed to be mated (reference: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/using-maths-to-ruin-chaturaji-or-mathematical-game-theory). I think king's pawn is the only move in that situation.

Gotcha. Actually this kind of forum was exactly what I was looking for, thank you so much for providing this link. I really love chaturaji, but personally this seems like a flaw in the game to me that higher rated players will certainly take advantage of, so I am assuming in higher rated play it is very difficult to win, if not just survive with green. Anyways, thanks again for providing this link, much appreciated. And as always if anyone else has any thoughts please feel free to share.

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Thx bird for the link.

Interesting might be the 3rd move of Green.

Instead of moving forward, moving backward to f5 might be the better alternative?

Sorry i meant h5.

Not really an escape, but not mate so quickly.

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NCHESS9393 wrote:

How am I supposed to defend against this? I have lost many times against this and f2, f3, and f4 all seem to lead to checkmate within a few moves. Am I missing something?

The image keeps disappearing, so the situation I am referencing is when both players directly next to you move their king pawns up one and prepare to check you. When only one player does this it is easy to get out of it, but when both players do it seems to me that it is almost certain mate.

Here is a game of mine for reference: https://www.chess.com/variants/chaturaji/game/90357368/3/1

Against 3.Nh6, a good move might have been Kh5!?

But generally, don't join unreglated lobbies. Try 2200+

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That is actually a really good thought. I was thinking about that before but thought it also led to mate. But if red's bishop is there you are right in saying that it would not. The other problem, however is if yellow's knight moves instead to f6 covering that square for green.

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NCHESS9393 wrote:

That is actually a really good thought. I was thinking about that before but thought it also led to mate. But if red's bishop is there you are right in saying that it would not. The other problem, however is if yellow's knight moves instead to f6 covering that square for green.

If Nf6 you can in theory play Kh4. The discovered attack doesn't do anything

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What's blue's best chance of survival here?

Game link: https://www.chess.com/variants/chaturaji/game/91602237/144/3