Jesus Christ in the Holy Quran

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Hi People

Some people can think that Jesus Christ is not specified in Quran as a Messiah. But evidences in the Holy Quran are denying it.
Now we will look at some verses from Quran. Let's see.

Primarily, "Christ" 's meanings are: Messiah, Lord's Anointed; title given to Jesus of Nazareth. Okay.

2-87: We gave Moses the book and followed him up with a succession of Messengers; we gave Jesus,  the son of Mary, clear (Signs)and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that whenever there comes to you a Messenger with what ye yourselves desire not, ye are puffed up with pride? Some ye called impostors, and others ye slay!

Here Jesus is specified as a Messenger. Messenger's meaning: God sends a book to a prophet. And then he becomes a Messenger.
For Example, David(Psalms), Moses(Torah), Jesus Christ(Bible), Muhammad(Quran). These are the messengers. Ok.

2-136: Say ye: We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: we make no difference between one and another of them: and we bow to God.

Here, again Jesus specified as a Messenger. Yes.

2-253: Those Messengers we endowed with gifts, some abovce others: to one of them God spoke; others He raised to degress (of honour); to Jesus, the son of Mary, We gave Clear(Signs), and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. If God had so willed, suceeding generations would not have fought among each other, after Clear (Signs) and come to them but they (vhose) to wrangle, some believing and others rejecting. If God had so willed, they would not have fought each other; but God fulfilleth His plan.

Again as a Messenger..

3-45: Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God;

Okay, here Jesus specified as a Christ(Messiah). We are going on.

3-52: When Jesus found unbelief on their part he said: who will be my helpers to (the work of) God? said the disciples: we are God's helpers: we believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.

Hey, look. The word of "Muslim"'s meaning is: one who believes in God, truly.  I mean, here, already it specifies "Muslim" as a "real believer." Ok. Let's go.

3-55: Behold! God said: O Jesus I will take thee and raise thee to myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject Faith, to the day of resurrection: then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

Here, God is talking about the Jesus's followers, and the non-followers.

3-59: The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; he created him from dust, then said to him: Be: and he was.

This was how Adam created by God. As you know, Adam has no father or mother. And it is saying that; how Jesus created by God, without a father. And it specifies Mother of Jesus Christ, Saint Mary's chastity.

4-156: That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
4-157: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of God"-but they killed him not, nor cruficied him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (vertain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not-
4-158: Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise-
4-159:And there is no one of the People opf the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the day of judgment he will be a wittness against them-

Quran specifies that, Christ Jesus did not die or cruficied...As we look carefully we will see that "but so it was made to appear to them,"
it appeared like that.

4-172: Christ(Messiah) disdaineth not to serve and wroship God, nor do the angels, those nearest (to God): those who disdain his worship and are arrogant, he will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).
 
Lo! Here as a Messiah.

Also there is a surah called "Mary" in Quran....19th Surah. There a lots of verses there about Mary and Jesus Christ.

You can download the Quran from a free site.. And search as "Jesus Christ or Messiah"...You'll find a lot of verses.

Thank God for the Holy Books, that are leading us to the right path.
Thanks for the Torah, Psalms, Bible and Quran.
A lot of "thanks words". :)

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Explain this to me...

  • Who wrote the Q'uran?
  • Is it inspired by the Holy Spirit?
  • Does it contradict itself, or other parts of the Talmud, Torah, or Septuagent?
  • Since, as it's my understanding, the Q'uran was written ~300 years after the Council of Nicea, has it been reviewed to see which parts of it belong to the Canon of Scripture?
  • Is there some reason I'm unaware of that I should be using the Q'uran instead of the Bible?
  • Didn't John give us a warning in Revelation 22:18-19 about this?

    A Warning

    18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Just wondering...

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Hi My Friend

Ok..I'll answer your questions..

* Who wrote the Q'uran: It is written by God. Like the other Holy Books. God was giving the apocalypses, commands, bans, do's and don't's to the Holy Spirit(Gabriel). And Holy Spirit was notifying these messages to Muhammad. And those messages was memorizing by some persons around the Muhammad. And therewithal, that messages was enroling to the paper pieces. And then it reduced as a Book.

*Is it inspired by the Holy Spirit?: Yes. Apocalypse was actualizing like this. God>Holy Spirit>Muhammad. Quite simple. God notifies Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit notifies Muhammad.

* Does it contradict itself, or other parts of the Talmud, Torah, or Septuagent?: Contradict? No, Quran doesn't contradict itself. Rather.  I'll took some verses from the Quran.

The Heifer 2-2: This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear God.

No it does not Contradict Talmud, Torah or Septuagent. There are some verses about Torah in Quran:

The Heifer 2-40: O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you, and fulfil your Covenant with Me as I fulfil My Covenant with you, and fear none but Me.

The Heifer 2-41: And believe in (Quran) what I reveal, confirming the revelation (Torah) which is with you, and be not the first to reject Faith therein, nor sell My Signs for a small price; and fear Me, and Me alone.

The Heifer 2-62: Those who believe (in the Quran), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians, any who believe in God and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord: on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

The Heifer 2-136: Say ye: We believe in God, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord: we make no difference between one and another of them: and we bow to God.

There a lot of verses, look from the Quran. Do not scare from Quran. It is just a Holy Books like the other Holy Books. It won't hurt us. :)

* Since, as it's my understanding, the Q'uran was written ~300 years after the Council of Nicea, has it been reviewed to see which parts of it belong to the Canon of Scripture?: Can you ask this question again clearly? I couldn't understand.

* Is there some reason I'm unaware of that I should be using the Q'uran instead of the Bible?: Look Quran is a Holy Book like Bible or Torah. There is no inconvenience on this. No doubt. I'm reading it, but nothing happened still. Already, I'm not waiting something for happen. Be free. These Holy Books sent to us by God, to find our Right ways. And we are reading it. Yea? Do not scare from the holy books which God sent to us. Let us be free!

* Didn't John give us a warning in Revelation 22:18-19 about this?: Let's look at that:

22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
 
Okay, yeah St.John is right. Already, no one took some parts of Bible or no one take them and add that on somethings. Right?
But, Quran is a complemental book which is completing the other Holy Books. Quran contains all of Holy Books. Quran is a confirmatory book of the other Holy Books.
Psalms, Torah, Bible => Quran. Quite nice. :)

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. (Genesis Chapter 1)

Jesus Christ, be with us. Let's say Amen. Amen.

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There is no Godly or Holy about the Quran.

(added:  this is from 8/6/2010 @ 0647 and I apologized on 9/14/10 @ 1128)

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A Real Christian is respectful to other religions and other Holy Books.

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Silvanovich wrote:

A Real Christian is respectful to other religions and other Holy Books.


 a real christian will tell the whole truth even if it offends those who are spreading falsehood , such as you. There is only one way to heaven. We will go to the father Yahway only through the shed blood of Yeshua ha machiach(Jesus). there is no other way into heaven.

Point of interest: allah says give me your sons to die for me! Yahway(God the father) said I will send my Son to die for you!

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Silvanovich wrote:

A Real Christian is respectful to other religions and other Holy Books.


 In case you have not noticed this is a CHRISTIAN group. We are not interested in your lies, misconseptions, and falacies. Take your dribble to those who are decieved by it because we are not!

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Sinners, are saying "lie" to God's words.

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Well, Silvanovich, to be honest, I do not believe you answered my questions.  Here're a few oversights/assumptions made on your part.

  • The Q'uran does, in fact, contradict both itself and the Bible in several spots.  That's why it is NOT considered part of the Canon of Scripture (to put it succinctly, it is considered profane [not kosher] by the Jews, and anathema by the Christians).
  • The Holy Spirit is NOT the angel Gabriel.  There are so many evidences for this that I can't believe you actually used it as a reference.
  • You did not answer John's warning from Revelation, but rather, side-stepped it, and proceeded forward on the assumption that we would take your word at face value.

I must commend you on your zeal. Silvanovich.  It's a shame that you are directing your energies to try and sway people away from the one book of truth.

Also, to put things into perspective, there are three ways of looking at God, creation, and life-after-death.

  1. Christianity alone claims that Jesus is God, and was fully man AND fully God when he came to this earth.
  2. Every religion claims that they are the one true path, and they have their prophet.  Many of these claim that Jesus was also a great prophet, but that he was NOT God (of course, you can go to the tomb of all these great prophets and be assured that their bodies are in them.  However, while you can go to Jesus' tomb, you will not find his remains, there, or anywhere else, for He, and He alone, is risen from the grave).
  3. Let's not forget that the atheist's believe that there is no God at all.

So, using the simplest of all rules of logic (rule #1, actually), something can NOT be true AND false at the same time.  Let me extrapolate that for you...

  1. Christianity is correct, and EVERY other religion is wrong, OR
  2. Every other religion is correct, and Christianity is wrong, OR
  3. The atheists are correct, and there is no God, and EVERY religion is wrong.

So, Silvanovich, where do you fall?  Personally, I believe that statement #1 is correct, in both instances.  And since I believe it, and I have a manual (The Bible) that tells me all I need to know about God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit (The Triune God), I do NOT need ANY other book, god, or belief.

Silvanovich, in closing, I will ask once more; do you believe that Christ alone is the way to Heaven?  Or are you going to continue to contradict the simple point of logic I've shown here?  Remember, your eternal soul depends upon how you answer that question.  Will you take the name of Christ, and Christ alone, as your eternal Messiah, or will you continue to deny Him his due place in your life?

In the meantime, I will pray that God will reveal Himself to you in the fullest measure, so that you will know the love that He has for you.  The same love that sent Jesus to the cross to pay for my sin, and for yours.

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Well, brother, I promise you, I'll answer you as my knowledge..

*So, what do you think the Holy Spirit is? It is Gabriel the Archangle of Apocalypse.

*I answered you, with the verses of John's Gospel. I put that verses there, and I explained. What is non-understandable there? And what do you want to hear from me? I answered you as my knowledge...The Holy Bible is a Great Gift for us, we can find all of our question's answers there....

Hey, Look brother. No, it is not a shame. And I'm not trying to direct my energies to try and sway people away from the oe book truth..These are the books of God. Denying one, means denying other. Well, I'm asking you why the book is just one? Or, why some guys think the Holy Bible is the one, Book Of Truth. What Happened to Psalms? What happened to Torah? What happened to Quran? Ha? What happened to them? Why and Why? Stick to one, and deny other. Why? Well, I say ye.. I'm not denying other books. I believe, Psalms, Torah, Bible and Quran are the books of God. And all of them must be readen and be understood. Ye art trying to sling mud at me .

Okay, in the Holy Bible there are 3 specialities of Jesus;

1)Jesus is the Son of God; It means, Jesus is a concrete divine inspiration . And all of the apocalypses are just and just coming from God, and there are no humanistic misrule and there are no desirestic dimension in the apocalypses.

2) Being Divine inspiration; Jesus is fatherless, and he has a great and spiritual personality. And this shows, he is the universal ambassador of the divine inspiration and he is a pure and an alive divine inspiration . In the Holy Bible, even if he supported by the Holy Spirit, rather to other prophets he is not taking information from God and transfer it. Because he is an alive divine inspiration of the God. God created him fatherless, so humanistic misrules don't be mixed up into the divine inspiration . At the same time, he is coming from Mary. Mary is also female, and being passive, also her name's meaning is "Humanity". Yes, the owner and the father of the divine inspiration is the God. But, the mother of the divine inspiration , and the contour and material of the divine inspiration is the meat and the blood of the Mary; the language and the culture of the mankind. Look at this tradition "We, prophets; are brothers that our father is one, but our mothers are different." And this divine inspiration comes to earth, finishes its work, and returns to universe of the Spirits, and the attendance of the work, the Holy Spirit(Archangle of Apocalypse) sends inspirations to people, and continues to mission.  Jesus; "I'm going; but Holy Spirit will support to you."

3)And Being a Human; divine inspiration is deathless. But the body, the paper, the ink of the divine inspiration is mortal, one day it will die absolutely. But the divine inspiration will find a new package and it will resuscitate again.

The Disciple, who made Jesus catchen by the enemy, he didn't lost his belief. Because he didn't deny the meaning of Jesus. The other disciple (Petrus), he denied his connection with mankind by 3 times, but he is not  responsible for this. BEcause he did not deny  the divine inspiration son of God, but denied the Jesus(son of God) who can be thirst, hungry and can be killen.

Okay, let's come to your sayings:

1-In West, we christians, forget the Jesus's universal Bible, and rather we can take the principal as the alive divine inspiration 's developing shape  and improve us on spiritual and civilizational, we still arguing on "Jesus's blood and meat is God? or he is the son of God?".

2-Well, Jesus never did die. He is in the sky. Well, there is no tomb. If there is, it is wrong. Well, every religion has own their prophet, but they all believe the other prophets. Do they or don't they?

3- That atheists, are in a closed box. They are trying to live.

but you put wrong choices, but I'll look:
1-All of the Godly religions are right.
2-Christianity is Right.
3-Atheists are not correct.

Ha, of course you need the other books.

Ok, ofcourse all of the prophets are in the way of Heaven.  I took the Christ as a Messiah. And, I'm not denying him. How can you say this, brother? Don't do that.

Ok, you are very kind, brother. I'll pray for you too. Thanks, thanks. Pray for all of us. Thanks again.

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Silvanovich wrote:

Sinners, are saying "lie" to God's words.


First off, I am not a sinner, in the sense that you infer. Second I do not and will not call God's word a lie, but I will forever say that the words of this so called god allah are lies from the pits of hell. This is a christian forum, and most of us don't wish to have to navigate around your lies.

There is one lord, one faith, one baptism. One God and father of us all.There is one name given under heaven whereby we MUST be saved. That name is Jesus. For at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow,   of things in heaven, things in earth, and things under the earth, to the glory of God the father , that Jesus Christ is lord.

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Okay. These words "God, Allah, Jehovah" are the same. They all represents One and Only Supreme Being. As the saying goes he is our "Creator". And God sent people 4 books. Psalms, Torah, Bible, Quran. And these books contains God's words.

Well, I didn't tell you something wrong. I was just trying to explain the place of our Lord Jesus Christ in Quran. And you guys said "lie" to  the Words of God. And I said "sin" to your words. Yes, you are.

And at last, you know, I'm bored from you. It is enough! You guys are looking like the children in a kindergarten. Everyone is crying. Enough! What do you think these verses are. They are the words of God. We can't deny them. But just the guys like you, can deny. Satan is laughing to you. Don't make him laugh to you. Please, for your own good.

Good Afternoon.

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Silvanovich wrote:

A Real Christian is respectful to other religions and other Holy Books.


I apologize for being so blunt when I wrote: 'there is nothing Godly or Holy about the Quran.'  I assumed I was addressing a Christian that had just not spent much time reading a Bible and was being deceived by following information from un-Biblical sources.  My opinion of the Quran or the Barnabas bible is unimportant.  We can discuss it later if you want, but there is a more important subject to discuss.  What think ye of Christ?  Whose son is he?  Please take a moment to read my profile.  I will respond to you in a private email because it appears this thread has become hostile to friendly discussion.  If you wish to talk in private, I will, or be left alone, I will, or continue talking here, I will.  Again, I spoke without thinking and I did not mean to offend you.

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ok, I sent you the answer. yeah, private messages is ok. :]

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Silvanes wrote:

A Real Christian is respectful to other religions and other Holy Books.

A real muslim wouldn't try to mess up others' beliefs. You believe what you want to but please don't spread the word of islam in a christian group as we're never convert but will always remain faithful to our God Jesus Christ.

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My recommendation would be to do Quran learning with a Quran teacher so that you can understand it correctly. Most of us don't read Quran with meanings therefore they can't understand Quran with real meanings.