What opening to play in Hyper Fiesta?

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if it's ever possible for your right to attack your king next move (if you are making a king move, then if it's possible for him to attack the square you are moving to), you should not premove (only exception is if you are very low on time or you know your right has dignity)

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that way you can avoid every cheapo

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thanks for the advice

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BoxJellyfishChess wrote:

other openings are subpar, please please please do not do the luke special pushing kings pawn and bringing out bishop to snipe king on dirty premove.

1. good players will never fall for the trick, and you waste 3-4 moves on the bishop.

2. if you capture the king, your cross and your right will have started trading, and you will have no one to trade with, and you will get third because you wanted to be toxic and make your left last. The 3 points from the king capture is pretty insignificant.

so don't push the kings pawn, ever, especially since it prevents your right from effectively trading with you.

well if yellow cooperates with red and they both do king pawn, but green does bishop pawn, they can easily eliminate green from the game

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MayimChayim wrote:
BoxJellyfishChess wrote:

other openings are subpar, please please please do not do the luke special pushing kings pawn and bringing out bishop to snipe king on dirty premove.

1. good players will never fall for the trick, and you waste 3-4 moves on the bishop.

2. if you capture the king, your cross and your right will have started trading, and you will have no one to trade with, and you will get third because you wanted to be toxic and make your left last. The 3 points from the king capture is pretty insignificant.

so don't push the kings pawn, ever, especially since it prevents your right from effectively trading with you.

well if yellow cooperates with red and they both do king pawn, but green does bishop pawn, they can easily eliminate green from the game

eliminating a player from the game is really dumb. if ry do this they are giving blue 1st place. Also its very very rare to have a cross that cooperates so most likely you just waste a million moves with the bishop. 

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BoxJellyfishChess wrote:

so the only viable options are bishops pawn or knights pawn. If you frequently play anything else, you will never make it above 2100.

I am not exaggerating on this. There is not a single player who pushes king pawn that is 2100+. I you see someone 2100+ play it, it's because they normally play the standard openings and felt like trolling.

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i move my pawn first then king then bishop but i get less points whats the main trick to play

, not to lose . 

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can u play matches on this club? if so then how?

 

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see topic in the forum, daily match challenge

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I just want to know. What openings do you play? I play bishop pawn, then move my king there, then knight pawn and move my king there too. Then, I push my rook pawn.

rupkayak

that's the main one but if you know people are doing that you can surprise them with king pawn bishop check, or the jerry special of knight pawn bishop there king over, or the yak special of knight pawn, bishop to the edge, then king over

JkCheeseChess

I go with bishop pawn then king there then knight pawn and then bishop there as long as I have to interferences such as check or opponent giving up a free piece

BoxJellyfishChess
rupkayak wrote:

that's the main one but if you know people are doing that you can surprise them with king pawn bishop check, or the jerry special of knight pawn bishop there king over, or the yak special of knight pawn, bishop to the edge, then king over

main now is actually bishop pawn, king over, knight pawn, then fianchetto the bishop. If your opp does this too, bishops are easily traded, and rooks/knights are always the easiest to trade. I like to keep a mental database of which opposites will fianchetto. hopefully one day everyone will.

BoxJellyfishChess

you can also start with knights pawn and do a quick fianchetto, then transpose. or, as kayak said, do jerry special and bring out knight (to the square the bishops pawn normally goes) then move it to the square 2 in front of the rooks pawn, and the knight will likely trade for a bishop

BoxJellyfishChess

other openings are subpar, please please please do not do the luke special pushing kings pawn and bringing out bishop to snipe king on dirty premove.

1. good players will never fall for the trick, and you waste 3-4 moves on the bishop.

2. if you capture the king, your cross and your right will have started trading, and you will have no one to trade with, and you will get third because you wanted to be toxic and make your left last. The 3 points from the king capture is pretty insignificant.

so don't push the kings pawn, ever, especially since it prevents your right from effectively trading with you.

BoxJellyfishChess

so the only viable options are bishops pawn or knights pawn. If you frequently play anything else, you will never make it above 2100.

ajayjha25

bishop financhetto 

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bishop pawn forward then king there

ajayjha25
BoxJellyfishChess wrote:
rupkayak wrote:

that's the main one but if you know people are doing that you can surprise them with king pawn bishop check, or the jerry special of knight pawn bishop there king over, or the yak special of knight pawn, bishop to the edge, then king over

main now is actually bishop pawn, king over, knight pawn, then fianchetto the bishop. If your opp does this too, bishops are easily traded, and rooks/knights are always the easiest to trade. I like to keep a mental database of which opposites will fianchetto. hopefully one day everyone will.

yes i always do that but noobs just keep saccing

ajayjha25
BoxJellyfishChess wrote:

so the only viable options are bishops pawn or knights pawn. If you frequently play anything else, you will never make it above 2100.

Ditto

JkCheeseChess

lmao

 

ajayjha25

to get to 2500 u need overrated 2500s

ajayjha25

noobs will shun u out and u lose big time

patamus_monkey

recently i have been favoring bishop pawn then knight pawn then king forward in front of bishop then bishop fianchetto. as long as you watch out for cheepos from your right. you should be fine. It can allow early trades with every other player, and keeps your bishop from being trapped. 

JkCheeseChess

ikr

JkCheeseChess

i've been trying to get 2400 for so long then keep losing cause noobs exist

JkCheeseChess

rn im 2215 or smthn idk anymore no one even plays unless there is an arena

ajayjha25

yh i remember those times when i was stuck in 2200

then i fell to 2000 

then up to 2300

and steadily chugging on

imjha

every body knows my opening

pretty much everybody who plays fiesta frequently

i play a lot of fiesta 

BoxJellyfishChess

arenas are every day of the week (not weekends)

 
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BoxJellyfishChess wrote:
rupkayak wrote:

that's the main one but if you know people are doing that you can surprise them with king pawn bishop check, or the jerry special of knight pawn bishop there king over, or the yak special of knight pawn, bishop to the edge, then king over

main now is actually bishop pawn, king over, knight pawn, then fianchetto the bishop. If your opp does this too, bishops are easily traded, and rooks/knights are always the easiest to trade. I like to keep a mental database of which opposites will fianchetto. hopefully one day everyone will.

bishop pawn king in front of bishop, knight pawn, but before king there, I put my bishop in front of my rook pawn(d6 if red) and then king in front of knight. Hyper fiesta is just trading pieces. I also hope the opponent to my right trades rooks.