Windows of opportunities vs. building life

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stephen_33 wrote:
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When you know so little, it's unsafe to draw firm conclusions!

We don't know (at this point in time) is a perfectly good & sensible position to take.

Speak for yourself.

What part of that do you disagree with prey?

What?

"Speak for yourself" implies that you disagree & I'm asking what specifically do you disagree about?

How life emerged is still a mystery, so we have little on which to draw firm conclusions. We should admit that we don't know.

What's controversial about that?

You do not apply the same standard across the board, if you did than even Darwin who didn't know what occurred in the past wouldn't be able to express his views about that he thought occurred. How life emerged in a mystery. You seem to want to shut down objections to your views, not enter into discussions about them. Why do you care why I say what I do if you can answer the questions, are questions and opinions a threat? You speaking for me as if you can tell me what I should or shouldn't say is stepping over a line. Just stay on topic and not worry about motivations.

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Not wishing to engage in more fanciful speculation regarding the emergence of life, isn't an attempt to shut down any objections. It's the case that we need more information in order to proceed in a constructive way.

That seems to be the position of well informed experts in the field & I'm content to follow them.

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I find it a little disturbing that you are happier listening to someone tell you what to think than thinking these things through for yourself. That is done in cults in religious circles, where people are treated like sheep and told they have to listen to those in power and authority that know best instead of searching for the truth themselves. So right now, to you, evolution is a dogma; it cannot even be questioned, and only a select few can think about it, and tell others what to think because only they are worthy, not you and I, am I getting this right or not?

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I don't have a degree in organic chemistry or biology & I haven't spent a career carrying out research in such subjects - that's why I defer to those who have.

I find it astounding that someone who doesn't have a clue about the most basic principles of evolution would presume to question some of the best minds & most experienced researchers with years spent investigating the validity of evolution.

For heaven's sake, you don't even know what questions to ask, as was shown elsewhere!

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I cannot have questions unless they are the approved kind? You do have a dogma, even the questions have to be approved!

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I cannot have questions unless they are the approved kind? You do have a dogma, even the questions have to be approved!

That is not what I stated above - did you read it properly? Ask whatever questions you like but if they don't apply to some aspect of evolution that remains open to question, how are they relevant?

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I cannot have questions unless they are the approved kind? You do have a dogma, even the questions have to be approved!

That is not what I stated above - did you read it properly? Ask whatever questions you like but if they don't apply to some aspect of evolution that remains open to question, how are they relevant?

"For heaven's sake, you don't even know what questions to ask, as was shown elsewhere!"

Please, I don't even know what questions to ask, as if there were only good and bad kinds. If we don't accept something as true and we raise questions concerning any topic, that is how we figure things out. If you want to restrict the questions to only those that are easily answered by you, all you are doing is hanging out in an echo chamber listening only to those that agree with you. You'll never leave dogma doing that!