Best Price For FIDE World Championship Chess Set

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

"You know, Mohan, I will give you some leeway for the language difference.  But you do need to take a look at the situation from my and other US people’s view.  We do make a higher wage than you can in India.  So we have more money to spend on things like Chess."

Yes, this is the difference. Easy money. The price difference is justifiable not because of quality but just because that money doesn't matters for you. The premium that you pay goes exponential compared to the Quality. Its all Philosophical thing. 
A rich person will justify the price of a Million dollar watch. 

KnightsForkCafe

Not a good business growth model if you ask me Eyechess. Being busier means more job opportunities for their local economy. 

Eyechess
KnightsForkCafe wrote:

Not a good business growth model if you ask me Eyechess. Being busier means more job opportunities for their local economy. 

They never claimed they wanted business growth.  They just want to make nice and good Chess sets, which they do.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess
Eyechess wrote:
KnightsForkCafe wrote:

Not a good business growth model if you ask me Eyechess. Being busier means more job opportunities for their local economy. 

They never claimed they wanted business growth.  They just want to make nice and good Chess sets, which they do.

Then you should stop behaving like an average consumer. You are actually a collector. An average consumer will only think what they get for what they are paying. They will trade off quality if the price is not justifiable. 

KnightsForkCafe
Eyechess wrote:
KnightsForkCafe wrote:

Not a good business growth model if you ask me Eyechess. Being busier means more job opportunities for their local economy. 

They never claimed they wanted business growth.  They just want to make nice and good Chess sets, which they do.

It's their business and if they want to be small. They can I don't care but to slap on a high price tag onto their products shows to me that they really don't want a blue collar man or woman to enjoy their products. It's not a pro customer business model but rather a model that only pleases themselves. If only raising cost based upon a desire not to work harder and offer more jobs within their community is a selfish way to run a company. That's my opinion.

Eyechess
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

"You know, Mohan, I will give you some leeway for the language difference.  But you do need to take a look at the situation from my and other US people’s view.  We do make a higher wage than you can in India.  So we have more money to spend on things like Chess."

Yes, this is the difference. Easy money. The price difference is justifiable not because of quality but just because that money doesn't matters for you. The premium that you pay goes exponential compared to the Quality. Its all Philosophical thing. 
A rich person will justify the price of a Million dollar watch. 

People are people no matter where they come from.  I find your statements humorous.  I am known as being very tight with my money.  I drive a Hyundai instead of a Mercedes or Tesla like some of my friends.

I only own 8 sets that cost me more than $300.  And not one cost me $600 or more.  And I also point out that I bought my sets over the last 23 years, slowly.  So, I have not spent a lot of money on Chess stuff, by most standards.

 

Eyechess
KnightsForkCafe wrote:
Eyechess wrote:
KnightsForkCafe wrote:

Not a good business growth model if you ask me Eyechess. Being busier means more job opportunities for their local economy. 

They never claimed they wanted business growth.  They just want to make nice and good Chess sets, which they do.

It's their business and if they want to be small. They can I don't care but to slap on a high price tag onto their products shows to me that they really don't want a blue collar man or woman to enjoy their products. It's not a pro customer business model but rather a model that only pleases themselves. If only raising cost based upon a desire not to work harder and offer more jobs within their community is a selfish way to run a company. That's my opinion.

And what do you do for a living?

$600 divided by 26 hours is just over $23 an hour.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

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I only own 8 sets that cost me more than $300.  And not one cost me $600 or more.  And I also point out that I bought my sets over the last 23 years, slowly.  So, I have not spent a lot of money on Chess stuff, by most standards."

We buy to play. You are collecting. Owning 8 sets. Do a chess enthusiast need 8 sets? How many sets less than $300? See you doesn't seems to be a person who buys just to play. You are one of those collectors who loves to collect just for the Craftsmanship. 

Eyechess
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:
Eyechess wrote:
KnightsForkCafe wrote:

Not a good business growth model if you ask me Eyechess. Being busier means more job opportunities for their local economy. 

They never claimed they wanted business growth.  They just want to make nice and good Chess sets, which they do.

Then you should stop behaving like an average consumer. You are actually a collector. An average consumer will only think what they get for what they are paying. They will trade off quality if the price is not justifiable. 

I am a Chess player.  I am not a collector.  
What is an average consumer?

Here in the USA the average consumer would never think of buying any Chess set.

 

Eyechess
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

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I only own 8 sets that cost me more than $300.  And not one cost me $600 or more.  And I also point out that I bought my sets over the last 23 years, slowly.  So, I have not spent a lot of money on Chess stuff, by most standards."

We buy to play. You are collecting. Owning 8 sets. Do a chess enthusiast need 8 sets? How many sets less than $300? See you doesn't seems to be a person who buys just to play. You are one of those collectors who loves to collect just for the Craftsmanship. 

Well, it is quite rude of you to dictate how many Chess sets any person owns as a Chess player.

You do not know me or my playing habits.  Once again you are insulting me.

KnightsForkCafe

CNC Waterjet operator. It gives me a nice living wage but I can't spend my week's pay on chess equipment. I would love to get NOJ products but I can't justify paying those prices for chess pieces. Knowing that these costs do not justify their overhead costs. I know being apart of the EU does place a tax burden on them but at the same time there are other Slovenia company that does operate in the EU economy but yet can offer up quality products at a much more affordable costs. I know that the quality is less from them because they both work under the same EU economy but the quality of my living expense is more important to me than chess equipment.  

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

Average consumer. 
A Chess player who needs a set or two to play with it.
They won't mind whether the Queen crown have 5 or 7 or 9 cuts.
They won't mind if the mane of the Knight is carved to perfection or not. 
Even if you give them a worst CB set, they won't say the nostrils of the knight should be facing front and not on top.
They don't care the minor details that you are looking for. 
All they need is a nice looking set to play. 

Eyechess
KnightsForkCafe wrote:

CNC Waterjet operator. It gives me a nice living wage but I can't spend my week's pay on chess equipment. I would love to get NOJ products but I can't justify paying those prices for chess pieces. Knowing that these costs do not justify their overhead costs. I know being apart of the EU does place a tax burden on them but at the same time there are other Slovenia company that does operate in the EU economy but yet can offer up quality products at a much more affordable costs. I know that the quality is less from them because they both work under the same EU economy but the quality of my living expense is more important to me than chess equipment.  

Fine, but there is no need for you to make such judgments for others.

Eyechess
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

Average consumer. 
A Chess player who needs a set or two to play with it.
They won't mind whether the Queen crown have 5 or 7 or 9 cuts.
They won't mind if the mane of the Knight is carved to perfection or not. 
Even if you give them a worst CB set, they won't say the nostrils of the knight should be facing front and not on top.
They don't care the minor details that you are looking for. 
All they need is a nice looking set to play. 

Well, here in the USA the average consumer does not play Chess at all.

And just because a player does care about the quality differences in a Chess set, he is not necessarily a collector.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

"Well, it is quite rude of you to dictate how many Chess sets any person owns as a Chess player.

You do not know me or my playing habits.  Once again you are insulting me."

I don't know why are you getting me wrong. Those lines are to mean that you are more of a collector. Collector doesn't always mean person who collects old stuff. Collectors will also collect stuff from their period. 

Mohan_Kumar_Chess
Eyechess wrote:
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

Average consumer. 
A Chess player who needs a set or two to play with it.
They won't mind whether the Queen crown have 5 or 7 or 9 cuts.
They won't mind if the mane of the Knight is carved to perfection or not. 
Even if you give them a worst CB set, they won't say the nostrils of the knight should be facing front and not on top.
They don't care the minor details that you are looking for. 
All they need is a nice looking set to play. 

Well, here in the USA the average consumer does not play Chess at all.

And just because a player does care about the quality differences in a Chess set, he is not necessarily a collector.

Average consumer, I meant in chess world. A person who needs chess equipments to play chess. Not in general sense.

Eyechess

You know, I can show any member of my local Chess club.  About 60% of them care nothing about their equipment and own some type of weighted plastic set, only because that plays better.  Of those all but a few have come to me asking me to get a good plastic set for them.  They then forget about it all and just play Chess.

The 40% have all come to me asking about a wood set.  Depending on their budget, I direct them to a set.  By the way, the set most of them get is the HoS Fischer-Spassky Clearance set at $149.  That is a phenomenal value.

Today, I would also point out The Chess House Wood Ultimate set, which can cost a bit over $130 with the right discount.

And they all come to me about Chess Clocks.

I am known as the equipment expert in both owning and more importantly buying stuff at the lowest price.

There is another player that lives about 50 miles away from me that also owns a lot of nice sets.  The 2 of us play Chess with every set we own.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

@Eyechess
Now you accepted by yourself. You are chess equipment expert. You collects them. 
What I have mentioned before is how many of those in the club have some 10+ sets like you.
And whether can you convince them to buy a Noj Set by justifying the Quality difference?
If you think about this then you will know that you are not a chess player who buy chess sets just for playing. 

Eyechess
Mohan_Kumar_Chess wrote:

@Eyechess
Now you accepted by yourself. You are chess equipment expert. You collects them. 
What I have mentioned before is how many of those in the club have some 10+ sets like you.
And whether can you convince them to buy a Noj Set by justifying the Quality difference?
If you think about this then you will know that you are not a chess player who buy chess sets just for playing. 

Actually, I have directed 2 of the 18 in my club to Noj, and they both bought a Noj set.  And we all use our Noj sets for play.

The Noj sets, especially the Dubrovnik II, are really quite durable and built for play.

A collector buys sets to own and usually does not use them for play, especially as much as I use mine.

An expert is also not necessarily a collector.

Mohan_Kumar_Chess

2 of 18 is not that much considering there are tons of chess players who don't even go for clubs. By the way I'm #100. 😄