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Bobby's Dubrovnik set in pain :( ...

  • #1

    I hope this is the right forum for this post. Here is Bobby SLAMMING his Dubrovnik set all over the place on the Dick Cavett show. It is a wonder any of his sets ever survived sad.png . Play begins at 7:34 in the video ...  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIE3CFNpZ5Y

  • #2

    Great clip Ron1 Thanks for sharing that.

  • #3

    Hi Ron,

    Thanks for the the old clip of Fischer with Cavett.  Too bad the schmucks had to splash GLOBALIMAGEWORKS across the screen.

    I always remember Bobby aggressively flicking down the pieces when analyzing, as if he wanted to hurt the pieces or the board.   I'm not trying to be a psychoanalyst (though I play one on Chess.com), but I think the lack of a father and a rather radical leftist mother had some deep-seated consequences for this personality and it came out in his game.

    During that era, a few of the younger players in Colorado used to use the same motion during rated tournaments, first to intimidate and perhaps more importantly through some unconscious sympathetic magic to draw power from their idol.

    Frankly, I didn't like it one bit, particularly since they were know it all, pain in the ass patzers (ha ha).  Of course, so was I, but I was at least courteous and didn't act like a jerk.

    Bob 

  • #4

    This reminds me how great Dick Cavett was.

  • #5

    Yes, Mr Cavett was a great talk show host. 

  • #6

    This is senior... I have a brand new account here... Great Vid and thanks for sharing. Can't believe I missed this one over my many years... Oh... and a quick Hi to some of my old member friends...

  • #7

    I loved the interview.  Always find it weird to see these interview of Bobby at his prime.  He seems so with it and cool but I can't help looking for the cracks that had to be there below the surface.  I love the way he tosses the pieces around with an almost practised indifference.  Such control and focus.

  • #8
    cgrau wrote:

    This reminds me how great Dick Cavett was.

    Dick Cavett was not nearly as good as David Susskind, but light years ahead of all the foolish wannabes around today from the oh-ain't-I-funny self righteous Colbert to the condescending smart ass Maher.

  • #9
    fightingbob wrote:
    cgrau wrote:

    This reminds me how great Dick Cavett was.

    Dick Cavett was not nearly as good as David Susskind, but light years ahead of all the foolish wannabes around today from the oh-ain't-I-funny self righteous Colbert to the condescending smart ass Maher.

    Agree about the look at me crowd today Bob. The only interviewer I like in Modern Times is Charlie Rose (politics aside wink.png )

  • #10
    fightingbob wrote:
    cgrau wrote:

    This reminds me how great Dick Cavett was.

    Dick Cavett was not nearly as good as David Susskind, but light years ahead of all the foolish wannabes around today from the oh-ain't-I-funny self righteous Colbert to the condescending smart ass Maher.

    Susskind was the best,  I agree, Maher and Colbert are, in my view, more akin to court jesters.

  • #11

    David Frost, I thought, owned them both. I liked Cavett, much in the same way I now like Colbert. Lightweight, but funny and more often than not to the point. Perhaps Colbert is a little too slow to give a joke a rest, to move on to new points of enquiry, but what can you do when the running gag in your country is Donald Trump? It's like asking a successful gold miner to stop digging up all that gold and find some coal for a change.

  • #12
    verylate wrote:

    David Frost, I thought, owned them both. I liked Cavett, much in the same way I now like Colbert. Lightweight, but funny and more often than not to the point. Perhaps Colbert is a little too slow to give a joke a rest, to move on to new points of enquiry, but what can you do when the running gag in your country is Donald Trump? It's like asking a successful gold miner to stop digging up all that gold and find some coal for a change.

    Yes, David Frost was good, but he didn't "own them both."  I hate pop expressions as well as pop views.

    May I suggest you knock Donald Trump only after China rids the world of the running Joke and Communist Albatross, the inbred Kim Jong-un.

    Oh, and Colbert is a vulgar, unfunny braying ass who only appeals to leftist lemmings.  He's a great mouthpiece for The State, though. 

  • #13
    cgrau wrote:
    fightingbob wrote:
    cgrau wrote:

    This reminds me how great Dick Cavett was.

    Dick Cavett was not nearly as good as David Susskind, but light years ahead of all the foolish wannabes around today from the oh-ain't-I-funny self righteous Colbert to the condescending smart ass Maher.

    Susskind was the best,  I agree, Maher and Colbert are, in my view, more akin to court jesters.

    Yes, Chuck, that's a good description of them, but they are more vulgar than humorous.  My idea of a court Jester looks strikingly like Danny Kaye wink.png.

  • #14
    Ronbo710 wrote:
    fightingbob wrote:
    cgrau wrote:

    This reminds me how great Dick Cavett was.

    Dick Cavett was not nearly as good as David Susskind, but light years ahead of all the foolish wannabes around today from the oh-ain't-I-funny self righteous Colbert to the condescending smart ass Maher.

    Agree about the look at me crowd today Bob. The only interviewer I like in Modern Times is Charlie Rose (politics aside  )

    I agree, Ron, and with your "politics aside" aside too.

  • #15

    I don't believe Bobby's set was weighted. ( I read that somewhere.)  If true, it might explain how he could bang the pieces around without damage.

  • #16
    Crappov wrote:

    I don't believe Bobby's set was weighted. ( I read that somewhere.)  If true, it might explain how he could bang the pieces around without damage.

    That's right, it was unweighted. If you look at the end of the Mike Wallace interview on 60 Minutes, he pounds the pieces the same way.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89dHprwhplk

  • #17

    To be perfectly fair, I don't think Bobby's snappy flicking of the pieces in analysis was or is anything unusual. If you've ever watched really strong players analysing or going over games, they do it very much the same way; quickly rapping the pieces out, snatching off captured men at lightning speed. This in stark contrast to how they move the pieces at the board in competition - where the only real 'basher'/'slammer' I've seen was Garry Kasparov.

     

  • #18

    @ BonTheCat: I get annoyed when people who I'm playing against do that, so much so that I actively remind myself to not behave like that myself when I play. I feel like it's a matter of respect somehow.

  • #19

    Unweighted = thick solid chess pieces. 

    Weighed means thin walls. My writhed chess pieces have been played about 20times. 2 pawns have fractures already. Bobby knows what he's doing. This amateur analyzing of his pieces vs being without a father is retarded, pay no attention. He was passionate about the game and it showed in every ounce of Bobby. 

  • #20

     I couldn't agree more, Mr. Arets (maik1988).

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