The scrabble version is identical with the Chronos with the addition of a few scrabble functions. Sam makes them both.
I thought someone posted that Sam was out of the Sam Timer too?!?
Does anyone know what exactly is happening with the chronus clock? It's easily the best chess clock out there, yet it seems like it has been discontinued.
From what I can tell the Chronos/SamTimer clocks stopped being manufactured last year. Since then almost all sellers have run out of stock.There are a few clocks selling on Amazon for scalper prices ($222!). SamTimer has a few of the long clocks with pushbuttons for $139 in only blue and black.I've looked through the web for explanation and found none. There was a vague assurance that their facility has been moved and they are about to resume production soon, but that was six months ago or longer.My guess -- and it's only a guess -- is that the founder's health is bad and/or the family is fighting over the business.It's a shame.Last month I bought one of the last clocks the USCF Store had in stock and it's already died on me. I'm not happy.
its been a few years since they made one ... there were some chipset problems a few years ago and seems they have not revovered from that issuesome retailers remain optimistic:http://www.wholesalechess.com/news/1111/where-have-all-the-chronos-chess-clocks-gone.html
But note the date on the optimistic WholesaleChess notice -- July 16, 2013. More than two months later and still nothing.As to chipset problems, maybe, but in today's hi-tech world no chipset problem lasts more than a year unless there are other problems -- money, legal, competence, whatever.Since then Zmart has put together a Chronos GX clone for about half the price.
I'm not in the market for a new clock right now, but I wouldn't even consider getting a Chronos until I see people getting their Chronos clocks repaired in a timely manner. The last thing I want is to get stuck with an expensive door stop.
FWIW, I got an original Chronos back in the 90s and it still works like a charm. I also have a Chronos II which I got last year as a backup when it became apparent that they were running into supply issues, and that one works fine as well. Perhaps recent production runs have introduced quality issues that didn't exist before?
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried the miniSamTimer? Currently shipping (according to samtimer.com) and supposedly supports at least all the chess functions available in the Chronos GX...
Same price as a Chronos, but the small size makes it an interesting travel option. I don't know, but perhaps this is the successor to the Chronos GX?
that Chronos GX looks alright in pictures, but it feels "cheap" and the digital display will give you a headache.
I wouldn't even consider getting a Chronos until I see people getting their Chronos clocks repaired in a timely manner. The last thing I want is to get stuck with an expensive door stop.EscherehcsE: That occurred to me but I didn't hear about the repair problems until after I bought mine. I was going on the word-of-mouth about how rock solid the Chronos clocks were.Then it was too late.
Perhaps recent production runs have introduced quality issues that didn't exist before?FrankHelwig: That's my suspicion. I believe my dead Chronos must have been at the tail-end of their last production output.Something very wrong has occured with SamTimer / Chronos. It wouldn't surprise me that it showed up in the last Chronos clocks off their production line.Out of curiosity, has anyone tried the miniSamTimer? Currently shipping (according to samtimer.com) and supposedly supports at least all the chess functions available in the Chronos GX...The miniSamTimer is the Scrabble version of the Chronos GX. My clock is the same 6 1/2 inch length. The miniStamTimer contains all the chess settings too.From their web page, SamTimer still has plenty of the miniSamTimers at $139. If I trusted them, I might have gone for it.
that Chronos GX looks alright in pictures, but it feels "cheap" and the digital display will give you a headache.IM matzo: I assume you mean this ZMF-II I linked:
I'm aware that the ZM case is thick plastic and not thick aluminum. I've read the complaints that the LEDs are harder on the eyes than LCD. I'll refer you to one of the great perfectionist madmen of the chess world, Izmet of the Best Chessmen Ever website, who is clearly positive of the ZMF-II, though the Chronos remains his favorite.Watch video here.Love this guy! Don't stop with his clock review. His whole blog is a pleasure.
FWIW, I ordered the black/green ZMF-II from Amazon today. I'll post what it's like when it comes.I'd rather have my Chronos working. But the ZMF will do until the Chronos returns from repair, or if it returns, or if it returns and remains in working order. At this point I feel little confidence in any of those scenarios.According to the agreement you sign when you send in a Chronos for repair, you accept that it will take 4-18 weeks to be returned. In the meantime they accept no phone calls or email.This is a seriously screwed-up company.
I'll refer you to one of the great perfectionist madmen of the chess world, Izmet of the Best Chessmen Ever website, who is clearly positive of the ZMF-II, though the Chronos remains his favorite.
Love this guy! Don't stop with his clock review. His whole blog is a pleasure.
I second that. His blog is great. And the set he designed is gorgeous.
I've given up on Chronos. When they work, they're great, but I've sent mine back for the third time. I kept the serial number since Sam promised me a brand new one, but given the reports of lack of supply, I wonder if I'll ever see it. If one does come back, I'll check the serial number to be sure it's a new one. On the other hand, I don't think I can ever fully trust the Chronos clocks, and I'll probably use my DGT NA if I ever go to an out of town tournament. (That's the only kind there are for me. No chess activity in my little town of Athens Ohio, even though it is the home of Ohio University.)