Endgame: Dvoretsky or Silman?


  • 2 years ago · Quote · #41

    Yereslov

    The better question is who is better: Muller or Dvoretsky?

    You could even add in Nunn. He is a strong English grandmaster who published a two volume series on endgames. He also has his own opening encyclopedia.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #42

    TheGreatOogieBoogie

    Yereslov wrote:

    The better question is who is better: Muller or Dvoretsky?

    You could even add in Nunn. He is a strong English grandmaster who published a two volume series on endgames. He also has his own opening encyclopedia.

    Nunn for beginners (Understanding Chess Endgames, otherwise his two volume set is quite good), Muller for intermediates, and Dvoretsky for class B and above.

  • 2 years ago · Quote · #44

    dtrossen

    I noticed in Dvoretsky's "From the author" section of the Endgame Manual, he mentions that he prepared a series of lectures on the general principles of endgame play for the Moscow High School for Sports.  He then goes on to say, that the main ideas of that series became (with his permission) the basis of the book Endgame Strategy by Shereshevsky.  If he is the originator of that content, that is just one more reason why Dvoretsky is the greatest endgame author of all time.

    Regarding the general question of Dvoretsky v. Silman, the question is somewhat ridiculous in my view, since the Silman book is so much less complex and dense.  Silman provides easily understandable and very wordy presentations of a realtively small number of important endgame positions, and is one of many beginner endgame books that could be read prior to the Endgame Manual.  Silman, or the equivalent thereof, would be a prerequisite to Dvoretsky.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #45

    Sakib98

    well, i have the Dvoretsky and i am interested to read the silman . But i can't find the free pdf version of silman on net search. Can  anyone help me- from where can i download the pdf version for free?

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #46

    kco

    Don't think there is a fee download available for that one, if there is one it would be illegal.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #48

    uri65

    I have Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual but my favourite endgame books are

    • Six Hundred Endings by Lajos Portisch and Balazs Sarkozy
    • Chess Endgames by Laszlo Polgar
    • Chess Endgame Training by Bernd Rosen

    I like them because examples and explanations are short - 10 min is enough to go througn one example. Polgar is an extreme in this sense - there are no explanations at all, just the required result and the moves. You have to figure out all the rest by youself - this makes you work really hard.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #49

    SmyslovFan

    pfren wrote:

    Shereshevsky (Endgame Strategy).

    By far the best, since it's as far from a typical endgame book as it gets.

    Shereshevsky's book is brilliant. But it doesn't try to do what DEM or Silman's endgame book tries to do. If a person is looking to learn how to play all endgames, Shereshevsky's books (Endgame Strategy and his two volumes on Mastering the Endgame) won't help. They aren't encyclopedic, and they don't focus on basic endgames (when a K+P can beat a K, for example).

    Again, Shereshevsky's books are fantastic. But they can't replace a good basic endgame book such as DEM. They complement such basics very well though.

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #50

    Rehcsif_Ybbob

    I own Silmans endgame book, but have never read Dvoretskys. Its always checked out at the library, I know I can buy it, but meh. I like taking chess books from the library, something Ive done since I was a kid. But I have read Tragicomedy in the endgame, that was a helpful book

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #51

    tomgdrums

    I didn't like SIlman's book.  I much prefer de la Villa's 100 Endgames You Must Know coupled with Nunn's Understanding Chess Endings.

     

    And Encyclopedia of Chess Endings Volume 1 and 2 for practice (for the rest of my life!!)

  • 13 months ago · Quote · #52

    jambyvedar

    Shereshevsky Endgame Strategy is a good book, but it's strategic endgame book. While Endgame Manual is a theoretical endgame book.

     

    Anyone who want to improve their endgame should study strategic and theoretical endgames.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #53

    chesslasker

    Endgame Positions to know by heart :

       Chess Endings : Essential Knowledge by Averbakh

       Just the Facts! by Alburt and Krogius

       GM RAM by Ziyatdinov

       Dvoretsky's Endgame Manual by Dvoretsky

    Learning the technique of endgame play :

       Practical Endgame Lessons by Mednis

       Rate Your Endgame by Mednis

       Endgame Strategy by Shereshevsky

       Technique for the Tournament Player by Dvoretsky

    Study these books diligently and you will have IM level (at least) endgame knowledge.

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #54

    kindaspongey

    "... I believe that Jeremy Silman's Silman’s Complete Endgame Course (subtitled From Beginner to Master) deserved strong consideration for the 2007 ECF Book of the Year award; see the two books above. ...

    ... I'm convinced that Silman's book will take its place in history as one of the most popular endgame books ever. It has already caught on with the average player in a big way, confirming Silman's status as the king of instructional writers. He writes in a clear and casual style, and time and again has shown the ability to reach those who feel intimidated by the lofty approach that a grandmaster will often take. ..." - IM John Watson (2007)

  • 7 months ago · Quote · #55

    richie_and_oprah

    Both plus a few others.


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