Plastic Chess Pieces - Recommendations

Salmo22
RussBell wrote:

Based on the descriptor "alabasque" for the Cavalier set, I'm guessing that this is a type of plastic material manufactured to simulate the look of alabaster.  From the photos of some of the 1960's - '70's vintage Cavalier sets I've seen on eBay, this appears to be the case.  But again, this is only an (educated?) guess on my part.  My expectation is that you will like the set.  I will be curious to hear your feedback once you receive the set.

While I'm happy to get this 1498 Cavalier set in alabasque, I continue to seek a 1491 set. According to my research, the 1491 pieces are ivory/black and double weighted. The hunt for these old sets is proving to be a fun part of this journey with my grandson.

RussBell
Salmo22 wrote:
RussBell wrote:

Based on the descriptor "alabasque" for the Cavalier set, I'm guessing that this is a type of plastic material manufactured to simulate the look of alabaster.  From the photos of some of the 1960's - '70's vintage Cavalier sets I've seen on eBay, this appears to be the case.  But again, this is only an (educated?) guess on my part.  My expectation is that you will like the set.  I will be curious to hear your feedback once you receive the set.

While I'm happy to get this 1498 Cavalier set in alabasque, I continue to seek a 1491 set. According to my research, the 1491 pieces are ivory/black and double weighted. The hunt for these old sets is proving to be a fun part of this journey with my grandson.

So you're looking for the plastic (not alabasque) set pictured in post #35 of the following thread where the label on the box says No. 1491, Black & Ivory...

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/cavalier-chess-set-1498?page=2

My Cavalier set is the same non-alabasque plastic, but my "white" pieces are more cream in color (not as white as ivory) - exactly as pictured in the photo of post #7 of the thread.  In fact the box that my set came in is exactly the same box pictured in the photo of post #35, with the embossed "Cavalier Chess" logo on the top of the sliding lid (but without a label on the exterior of the box to indicate the model number).  So I don't know the model number of my set.

RussBell

 

Did a little Googling just now and discovered this Cavalier #1491 set on eBay...  

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Cavalier-Tournament-Edition-Chessmen-1491-1967-Pacific-Game-Co-Very-Rare-/173279759592

The color of the "white" pieces is very close as to be virtually identical to the color of my Cavalier pieces (which I have been referring to as "cream"), which leads me to now question whether my set is in fact a #1491.  Without more information, I cannot say it with certainty, but I had begun to wonder if the non-alabasque pieces pictured in posts #7 and #35 (mentioned in my post #22 above) are in fact one and the same model, with the perceived difference in color (ivory vs cream) simply being due to age and/or the lighting used in the photographs.  The uncertainty is created by the fact that, in the thread referenced in my post #22 above, there are several posts referring to "ivory" pieces, and other posts speaking of "cream" pieces.  Begging the question - are these in fact the same (#1491) pieces?

 

AlkinKing

The yellow of the ultimate chess set looks just how it does in the pictures. In dark lighting it almost looks cream but in a normal light its a neon butter ( as someone describes it in an earlier form).

 

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RussBell

The color temperature of the light source and the white/color balance of the film or digital camera sensors used in photography affects the color rendering of the scene and objects in a photograph.  In other words the color and hue of the scene and the objects will vary depending on the characteristics of the light source and film/camera sensor used.  Any filters used in front of the lenses will also have an effect.

The same principles apply to scenes viewed directly with the naked eye.  That is, the color temperature of the light source used (sunlight vs incandescent vs fluorescent vs LED bulbs, etc.) to illuminate the scene will affect how the colors are perceived to the naked eye.

http://www.westinghouselighting.com/color-temperature.aspx

read the last paragraph (beneath figure 3) of the following article...

https://www.olympus-lifescience.com/en/microscope-resource/primer/lightandcolor/colortemp/

http://lowel.tiffen.com/edu/color_temperature_and_rendering_demystified.html

 

AlkinKing
That’s probably the argument they used to have the pieces finalized in this color in the first place.
AlkinKing
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/ultimate-chess-set
AlkinKing
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess-equipment/my-new-ultimate-chess-pieces-are-yellow


I got the pieces knowing they were yellow. I like the pieces very much, they feel great and are great to play with.
BonTheCat
Salmo22 wrote:
RussBell wrote:

Based on the descriptor "alabasque" for the Cavalier set, I'm guessing that this is a type of plastic material manufactured to simulate the look of alabaster.  From the photos of some of the 1960's - '70's vintage Cavalier sets I've seen on eBay, this appears to be the case.  But again, this is only an (educated?) guess on my part.  My expectation is that you will like the set.  I will be curious to hear your feedback once you receive the set.

While I'm happy to get this 1498 Cavalier set in alabasque, I continue to seek a 1491 set. According to my research, the 1491 pieces are ivory/black and double weighted. The hunt for these old sets is proving to be a fun part of this journey with my grandson.

I think the 1491 is available in ivory/black, while ivory/brown ('walnut') is 1492 (although often presented as 1491: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CAVALIER-Chess-Set-STAUNTON-TOURNAMENT-EDITION/202300083856?hash=item2f1a064e90:g:uyEAAOSwAINa43~2). But I wasn't aware that the 1498 wasn't double-weighted (thought it was). Recently I've seen a couple of white and brown 1491/1492s on eBay for about $70, and one white (or cream/ivory) and black for $160. All given as double-weighted tournament editions.

 
RussBell: The cream/ivory, couldn't that just be the seller using a different terminology? On the box itself, the colour combination is marked as 'ivory' (see above) Also, Pacific Games seems to have changed the design of the box - some have that celluloid covered window on the front, other boxes are cardboard throughout, and only has the Pacific Games Cavalier logo/illustration on the box. I strongly suspect that the production of the double-weighted tournament editions expanded greatly from the original ivory/black over the years.

 

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AlkinKing
Have you received any of your sets yet? I’m itching to know witch one your grandson chose.
Salmo22

I hope to add some photos soon, but my grandson's final choice was unexpected.  To review, I purchased the "Ultimate Chess Pieces" from Chess House, the "Bobby Fischer Series" from Chess USA, and the "Collector Series", "Zurich Series", "Hastings Series", "Fischer Series" from House of Staunton.

Initially, my grandson was attracted to the "Ultimate Chess Pieces" from Chess House.  He loved the yellow color and how the set looked on their green Flex Pad board.  I must admit I liked that also.  In the end, my grandson choose something that wasn't originally under consideration.  He choose, and took home with him, my travel chess set that I got from Chess House - https://www.chesshouse.com/collections/travel-chess-sets/products/12-magnetic-travel-chess-set-in-rosewood

He loves to play games while laying on the floor and this set accommodates that very well.  He especially loved the Rosewood - just like his Papa does.  So when he is at my house, we play with the Ultimate Chess pieces on the green Flex Pad.  When we play at his house, it is with the travel set.  Every summer I take my three grandkids on a road trip.  The travel set will earn its stripes during our week on the road.

I appreciate the input of others.  It was most enjoyable to play with these different pieces.  Each strengths and weaknesses - both aesthetically and in play.

doyouacceptdraw

I have ordered 3.75 inch Collector plastic chess pieces in red and natural color from Wholesale chess. Hopefully, I'll recieve my order in a few days. Maybe I'll post some photos and review the set when I have recieved it.

quadibloc

I liked one called the Collector Series at Wholesale Chess, but the one at House of Staunton is not similar to that, although it's a good one too. However, I agree that their Zurich set is an excellent choice in an inexpensive plastic set. I liked the Marshall Library set even more, but apparently it's not available in tournament size.

edwardwayno

Hello

I have a 1491 Set in Black and Ivory with the original box. I was researching the set and noticed some interest here. null

BonTheCat

edwardwayno: I'm potentially interested. Is the set in good condition?

edwardwayno

I can get pictures for you.  All the pieces look very good but two have condition issues.  The black queen has cracking at the base that someone tried to fix with school glue.  One other piece has a crack split at the base. I think it is a rook.  This is a 45 year old set in the original box.  

edwardwayno

nullnullnullnullI have lightly cleaned and inspected the pieces and found the following damage. 

The black King has a small chip on top.

The black queen has a piece at the bottom broken and it is attached to the felt only.  The glue used was school glue and came right off.  A good glue would repair this piece good as new.

One black bishop has a split at the bottom

One White Knight has a split at the bottom

One White bishop has a crack along the bottom.

All felts are attached and in good shape. One I noticed needs to be reglued.  All weights are intact and none loose or missing.  The pieces not mentioned with damage are all in very good shape with little if any discoloring and light wear to sharp edges from storing and play.

I will attach more pictures.  The box is in great shapt with the feet and sticker intact.