The Fischer Set

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As promised, I shot a video of my recently acquired original Dubrovnik II chess set.

http://bestchessmenever.com/blog/files/the-fischer-set.html

-Izmet Fekali

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Great video! Thanks for posting.

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I'll second loubalch's comment; thanks for the posting!

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Thanks for your wonderful presentation on your 1950s Dubrovnik II Fischer set. And congratulations on owning such a magnificient historical set.  Can you tell me the height of the Kings and pawns?

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As always, love the video.

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Great video, Izmet. Very happy you got this set!

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Congratulations Izmet, I'm loving those pieces, both sets, and I have major chess set envy right now. 😜 Best wishes, John C.

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Beautiful chess set! Congratulations, and thanks for posting the video!

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The one Fischer kept in a safe was not the 1950 original, as he never owned one. In his radio interview he is clearly talking most fondly about the set from the cover of Life Magazine and the book Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess. It's a Dubrovnik II and you're welcome to look it up.

For the 1992 match, the organizers first tried to obtain the Dubrovnik II in Croatia, but failed due to political situation at that time. (I know this first hand from the secretary of Croatian Chess Federation.) Eventually they settled for a hybrid from two incomplete and damaged original 1950 sets that you can see in videos that you mention.

For your interest, I know this hybrid well, as the Noj 1950 repro was done using this set.

-Izmet Fekali


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I am a caretaker of a complete and original 1950 Dubrovnik chess set, recently donated by GM Milan Vidmar family to Ljubljana Chess Club (that I am one of the founders of).

-Izmet

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I would not. The set will be on display in newly founded Chess Museum of Ljubljana in the offices of our chess club. Another one (from GM Stojan Puc family) is on display in the offices of Noj, d. o. o..

-Izmet

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PolarChess wrote:
The 1950 Dubrovnik chess set really needs to be 3D scanned and the files released publicly for download and one original chess set kept in a secure place with proper humidity for historical purposes!

Why? It's not the Holy Grail — it's just a chess set.

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ifekali wrote:

I am a caretaker of a complete and original 1950 Dubrovnik chess set, recently donated by GM Milan Vidmar family to Ljubljana Chess Club (that I am one of the founders of).

-Izmet

The Dubrovnik historical chess sets couldn't be in better hands. We're sure that one of the holy grails of the chess world will be well taken care of for many years to come. Cool

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D2_To_D8 wrote:
ifekali wrote:

I am a caretaker of a complete and original 1950 Dubrovnik chess set, recently donated by GM Milan Vidmar family to Ljubljana Chess Club (that I am one of the founders of).

-Izmet

The Dubrovnik historical chess sets couldn't be in better hands. We're sure that one of the holy grails of the chess world will be well taken care of for many years to come. 

Totally agree, d2. Though I have to admit, taking a 3D scan or digital model of it is a decent idea. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Izmet already has one. But he's under no obligation to release it publicly if he does.

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rcmacmillan wrote:

With this technology, anyone who wanted a perfect copy of an 1849 or a Dubrovnik or any other "precious" item could just print one off on a 3-D printer, and whatever was unique or collectible about such an item would be lost.

I disagree. What is unique or collectible about an object is the fact that it is a genuine original. You could make hundreds of 3D printed Jaques replicas and people would still want the original, just as they prefer them now over repros. People still buy rare paintings and don't settle for colour photocopies.

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rcmacmillan wrote:

You are entitled to disagree, Andy. But I'm still allowed to have my opinion.

Of course. Where did I suggest otherwise? It's good that you are happy that your repros are not exact but other people do want exact copies and like PolarChess I see nothing wrong with meeting that market.

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It is possible to have an exact duplicate of a set with a single mark or something to identify it as a reproduction model.

For instance the King stamps could be modified to have a distinct "House of Staunton" look and maybe even its initials, very small.

A similar stamp at the base of the King or Queen would also work.  As Jaques sets have the Jaques stamp, an individual company could have its own name stamped at the base.

Doing a 3D scan and having a set duplicated near 100% like this would be cool, IMHO.

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PolarChess wrote:

Hi, just to clarify about my suggestion on a 3D scan is to allow individuals or companys to create replicas of the original 1950 Dubrovnik so the masses can play with a very nice chess set today and many generations into the future   I do not see anything wrong with that.  We have many replicas of the 1849 Staunton.

Cordially,

PC

I'm curious as to why you are adamant that Izmet scan and distribute a digital model of the same chess set, as reproduced by NOJ, you've gone to great lengths to demonstrate (not very successfully) fails to comply with FIDE regulations. 

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rcmacmillan wrote:

When one owns something unique or truly rare, there is no motive to want to duplicate it. One might hope he would be altruistic, but somehow, I doubt it.

Alan Dewey noted in this forum how (with the owners' permission) he has taken measurements and photographs of some of the rare sets that have passed through his hands for repair, so I think a lot of collectors would not have a problem with reproductions being made.