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  • #21

    Just found the pictures I sent them...

  • #22

    OMG

  • #23
    informaticacobach29 wrote:

    Just found the pictures I sent them...

    informaticacobach29,

    oh!...sorry for you.

  • #24

    That looks terrible, hope you got your money back or some replacements!

  • #25

    I would just go for my money back.  I have gotten a couple pieces that were broken already but that set would send me through the roof.  I will erase the URL from my favories forever from this vendor.

  • #26

    I went to the Ganesh site and looked. I will never buy from these people. I noticed the set #115, for example, on the first page of their Staunton sets. The picture is a straight-up copy of the picture of the original 1950 Dubrovnik set from Gregor's website. Just for kicks, I emailed them and asked the price of the set --- 79.00 with delivery! I was almost tempted to order it to see what showed up. I can't believe it would have looked anything like the picture, though.

  • #27

    Hi Everyone

               Now a Days i have heard of a new company in amritsar its Ks Art Works it is different from Js Art Works . Ks art works is also know for their best quality products in amritsar . you can also reach to their facebook page Ks Art Works https://www.facebook.com/ksartworks1/?fref=ts.

  • #28
    Michealjohn wrote:

    Hi Everyone

               Now a Days i have heard of a new company in amritsar its Ks Art Works it is different from Js Art Works . Ks art works is also know for their best quality products in amritsar . you can also reach to their facebook page Ks Art Works https://www.facebook.com/ksartworks1/?fref=ts.

    Welcome to the Equipment Forum and to Chess.com. I see you  just joined today and this is your very first (and only) post. Tell us about yourself and post some pictures of your sets. What are your favorites? 

  • #29

    I just got my delivery of Chess board and pieces from Ganesh Chess. They are absolutely perfect. I have never seen this quality before and I have seen quite a few chess shops arround the globe. I am 100% pleased with my delivery.

  • #30
    LarsMBH wrote:

    I just got my delivery of Chess board and pieces from Ganesh Chess. They are absolutely perfect. I have never seen this quality before and I have seen quite a few chess shops arround the globe. I am 100% pleased with my delivery.

    @LarsMBH, please post some pictures of your purchase. Those of us who have been burned by Ganesh would like to see a satisfied customer's set. I am not being facetious. It's nice that someone actually got a quality set from them.

  • #31
    rcmacmillan wrote:
    LarsMBH wrote:

    I just got my delivery of Chess board and pieces from Ganesh Chess. They are absolutely perfect. I have never seen this quality before and I have seen quite a few chess shops arround the globe. I am 100% pleased with my delivery.

    @LarsMBH, please post some pictures of your purchase. Those of us who have been burned by Ganesh would like to see a satisfied customer's set. I am not being facetious. It's nice that someone actually got a quality set from them.

    Welcome, Lars, I see you just joined Chess.come today, as well. I'd love to see pictures of your purchase, too. And of your other sets and boards. Many thanks!

  • #32

    I've been buying and selling chess sets from suppliers in India for almost 20 years and never had a bad experience dealing with the sellers. Yes chess pieces crack and get damaged in shipping. US customs has destroyed many pieces. This isn't the sellers fault. Woods expand and contract at different rates than the materials used to weight them so this can cause them to split.  I've had sellers that wrapped them in so much bubble wrap that the buyers complained about that or they get in a hurry and damage them cutting them open. Also the box size affect the shipping cost so smaller box cheaper shipping more possible damage. Some of them use canvas bags with thick foam around the sets and thats all good until someone shipping employ takes lunch break and sets on them. No matter how they send them if you buy enough just expect some to get damaged and you can also expect them to send a replacement.

    The postal systems in Mexico and Brazil  damage or loose so much stuff I quit sending packages to them back in 2010

    Satish from Ganesh Chess has made me some of the nicest sets I’ve ever owned.

    All these negative comments have no merit to them and seems like the motive is to promote AIW who charges much higher prices.

    If you order and pay for solid ebony wood that is what you get as you can see in the pictures where the damage was done in shipping it is solid ebony.

    Crybabies on here need to shut up and be glad that there are the few suppliers doing this high skilled work making these sets at an affordable price.

  • #33
    mopc wrote:

    I've been buying and selling chess sets from suppliers in India for almost 20 years and never had a bad experience dealing with the sellers. Bulls**t. If you say you have never had a problem with a seller, that's not believable.  Yes chess pieces crack and get damaged in shipping. Of course they do! But reputable sellers replace pieces. Chessbazaar has an excellent reputation overall, and have replaced pieces for many of the buyers on this site.  US customs has destroyed many pieces. This isn't the sellers fault. Really? I wasn't aware that x-raying a package caused cracks. Not a one of my packages through the inspection units in NYC or Philly has been opened. Volume is such that customs can't even begin to open a package unless it is suspicious. Woods expand and contract at different rates than the materials used to weight them so this can cause them to split. This is the only REAL cause of damage. Too much or too little humidity, or incompletely dried wood is the primary culprit.  I've had sellers that wrapped them in so much bubble wrap that the buyers complained about that or they get in a hurry and damage them cutting them open. Also Bulls**t. Also the box size affect the shipping cost so smaller box cheaper shipping more possible damage. That's true. Some of them use canvas bags with thick foam around the sets and thats all good until someone shipping employ takes lunch break and sets on them. No matter how they send them if you buy enough just expect some to get damaged and you can also expect them to send a replacement. If the seller is reputable, that's true.

    The postal systems in Mexico and Brazil  damage or loose so m uch stuff I quit sending packages to them back in 2010 

    Satish from Ganesh Chess has made me some of the nicest sets I’ve ever owned. You have been lucky, then. Not my experience with him, and some others here have had similar experiences, which we have documented. How about showing us some of these "nicest sets," or have you sold them all? Seeing is believing. I repeat, if you got good sets from him (possible) then you seem to be the exception.

    All these negative comments have no merit to them and seems like the motive is to promote AIW who charges much higher prices. How dare you say other's comments have no merit. We could say the same thing about yours, you know! And no one here is shilling for any particular company; just indicating who we've had good experiences with.If you order and pay for solid ebony wood that is what you get as you can see in the pictures where the damage was done in shipping How do you know it was done in shipping? Only the person who received it might be able to determine that. And the difference in knight sizes and carving styles is no "shipping damage." Get real. it is solid ebony. True. But Ganeshchess charged me for ebony and shipped sheesham. That is a fact, not fiction.

    Crybabies on here need to shut up You are the only one crying. The rest of us have only presented facts and opinions. and be glad that there are the few suppliers doing this high skilled work making these sets at an affordable price. I'm glad that there are some who do it affordably. But there is also a lot of crap produced in India as well. That is also a fact. You pays yer money, and you takes yer choice. (Mark Twain, Huckleberry Finn, Ch. 28)

     

     

  • #34

    The pictures informaticacobach posted show simply unacceptable flaws. Shocking, actually, considering someone paid good money for a set like that. Quality control at major retailers such as HoS might have been slipping according to some, but I'm not sure they would ever sink to that level. Yikes...

  • #35

    If the set wasn’t damaged in shipping and that’s how it was sent then I stand corrected.

     

    Did he contact them about it and get replacements? As a business owner it’s hard to get employees that will do what you expect. Could be someone working for him dropped the ball.

     

    Since I no longer live in NYC very rarely do any of my packages enter the US through New York and I hate it when they do. I buy Boards from MTM Woods over in Russia. He boxes them up really nice. The only one that’s enter the US at New York was busted open marks on the board where they used metal bars to pry it open then they wrapped it up with plastic wrap and left nails hanging out like little spikes.

     

    No way you can X-ray a duffle bag size package.  I know this because I’m a EOD tech trained in X-ray interpretation for checking baggage/Packages.
    And I’m referring to a package with these chess pieces not normal luggage.

     

    The point I was trying to make is out of the whole planet we have just a few places that can even make a set and if the negative comments shut down a good supplier the prices will only increase.  Then people will be paying $40 for a plastic set made in China by cnchess. 

    The whole process to make these sets is getting more difficult for the suppliers. The Red Sandal wood is ban. The Ebony wood is getting harder to get also. Then the younger generation isn’t interested in learning the carving.

    And I do have one set that I'm keeping that I can take some pictures of.

  • #36
    mopc wrote:

    If the set wasn’t damaged in shipping and that’s how it was sent then I stand corrected.

     

     

    No way you can X-ray a duffle bag size package.  I know this because I’m a EOD tech trained in X-ray interpretation for checking baggage/Packages.
    And I’m referring to a package with these chess pieces not normal luggage.

     

    The point I was trying to make is out of the whole planet we have just a few places that can even make a set and if the negative comments shut down a good supplier the prices will only increase.  Then people will be paying $40 for a plastic set made in China by cnchess. 

    The whole process to make these sets is getting more difficult for the suppliers. The Red Sandal wood is ban. The Ebony wood is getting harder to get also. Then the younger generation isn’t interested in learning the carving.

    And I do have one set that I'm keeping that I can take some pictures of.

    @mopc,

    Not to quibble about your qualifications, since I am sure you wouldn't lie to me, but the normal machines you see in airports that scan backpacks, duffel bags, etc. have an opening of approximately 24" square. Assuming that you need clearance of several inches on a side, this means that the standard capacity would be about 18"x18" -- more than enough for any standard chess set, no matter how well packaged. I might point out that ISC New York (the mail customs service center) has machines much bigger than that, similar to this one: http://security.adanisystems.com/products/adani-baggage-screening/bv-160180/

    How on earth do you think they would otherwise scan palletized air cargo??  The machine I pointed out can handle 68"x70" -- I think that would be big enough for even a chess table, should you want to import one.

     

    There are many manufacturers of chess sets in India and the rest of the Far East, and while red sandalwood and ebony are both under restriction, there are many woods that are not. Most of the sets these days are machine lathed by computer, with the exception of the knights, which have to be hand done. While laziness or lack of ambition of youth may be endemic here in the USA, in India and China in particular, there is a surplus of inexpensive labor, and many people looking to develop a valuable skill, such as  hand carving, that might make them a better living. Just sayin'.

     

    I find it interesting that with the exception of one person, no one has posted pictures of a nice set they received from Ganesh -- and that person's pics didn't match the picture posted on Ganesh's website. Several other people have given positive comments, but haven't posted pics, even upon request.  I have, in other threads, demonstrated that many of Ganesh's web site pics come from sites that don't belong to him. He copies pics that are representative of the sets he sells, not actual pics of the sets. I have personally been burned by him and would never recommend his company to anyone, especially when there are excellent companies and resellers out there.

  • #37
    rezshat wrote:

     I bought from ganesh as well.the price was very good and competitive.the packing system was really the best i'd ever seen an it took a long time for me to unwrap them.the chess box was really nice and had a good hand work on them.thank you ganesh..

    Please post some photos of your set. Many thanks!

  • #38

    Hi guys.  I just joined this site so I could comment on these chess set threads and say thanks for the information.  I used info from here to trace down the origin of a set I acquired 20+ years ago. 

     

    Turns out it's still a production item.  For the record it's this set: http://www.jsartsworks.com/deluxeset2m.htm

     

    It was supplied with a David Levy 2" board.  The rosewood rooks show some minor 'ovaling' but after 20+ years there are no cracks or warps which is more than I can say for some other sets I've accumulated over the years.

    I agree that quality varies widely in the marketplace, and it's true that individual results also vary.

    This isn't too remarkable, considering that the majority of chess pieces will be made of wood and in spite of all the care and quality control in the world sometimes a natural material just does as it pleases.  This doesn't excuse lack of care or lack of wood seasoning, and certainly knights delivered in two pieces just shows a laughable rush to get product from production to delivery.

     

     

  • #39

    Some weeks ago I got the new CB Latvian set (indeed well done!), but it was shipped with one broken knight. I sent photos to Sapna (woman or man?) and asked for replacement - they did, but not with FedEx. This could have only be done together with ordering another set I was informed, a real cheek in my opinion. So the case took another three weeks ...

  • #40

    Sapna is a female name in India.  Yes if you have a couple broken pieces they send it the slow, less expensive way, this is normal. If they had to end it FedEx as they do the set (2-3 days) it would cost them much more and might add to the original price of the set.  I received my piece when it was broke in 2 weeks which I didn't think was all that bad.

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