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American opening or defense??

  • #41

    TGOB, not to start anything with a fellow native American, but the North isn't that great either. As far as slavery goes, that was the pretense of the Civil War, and if you think paying people a penny a day, for 12-16 hours of work wasn't slavery, well, that shows your ignorance. Perhaps you should google sweat shops, and why the child labour laws came into effect. Also while your at that, you should check who, and what the robber barons were.

    You can be paid, and still be a slave, even today. Best wishes, and I am part Cherokee.

  • #42
    gm_joey wrote:
    Conquistador wrote:
    gm_joey wrote:

    because people who liked USA enough to name the opening after it, werent intelligent enough to discover an opening and people who were able to discover new openings, were too smart to like USA

    Brilliant!

    Now can a non-American translate for me?

    Feeling proud because you can speak 1 language? Why dont you speak Filipino, it will be much simpler than...

    Well you sure showed me and yes I am proud that the world knows that I only speak one language.

  • #43
    CrimsonKnight7 wrote:

    TGOB, not to start anything with a fellow native American, but the North isn't that great either. As far as slavery goes, that was the pretense of the Civil War, and if you think paying people a penny a day, for 12-16 hours of work wasn't slavery, well, that shows your ignorance. Perhaps you should google sweat shops, and why the child labour laws came into effect. Also while your at that, you should check who, and what the robber barons were.

    You can be paid, and still be a slave, even today. Best wishes, and I am part Cherokee.

     

     

    I refer to the Chinese sweat shops as technically slave labor because their labor is worth much more than a dollar an hour yet that's all they're paid.  If you deserve $15 per hour but are only getting paid a dollar an hour then you're a slave for 14/15th of the time. 

     

    I know about the child labor and I bring it up whenever people badmouth Marx.  Marx grew up in a time when labor and environmental protections simply didn't exist and people forget to factor in that context.  Today, we know that both extreme managerial leverage like what the robber barons had (even to the point of hiring thugs and even US government to quash labor strikes) and pure Marxism are false.  People talk about socialism like it's a bad thing, but look at the Scandinavian countries, they are among the top in both education and healthcare.  Judge an economic system by its practical results and benefits, not reject it because it can't fit under the "American" box. 

     

     I'm the guy who says we should stop romanticising the founders, it wasn't exactly a people's revolution but more about businesses not wanting to answer to some king.  Washington even suppressed a revolt, which happened because he screwed them out of their rightful payment.  Michael Perenti has some good video lectures on them. 

  • #44

    I wasn't talking about the Chinese sweat shops, I was referring to the Northern business practices, prior to the Civil War. The company owned company stores in many cases as well, of course with jacked up prices. Thereby enslaving people. Many of the workers were abused physically also. That's the great North you're so proud of. Don't take my word for it though, do some research on it, so you will know it yourself. Good luck, and best wishes to you.

  • #45

    By the way, speaking of opeening, there is no chinese game even...

    Here are some opening that have not been named yet...

    1.e4 e5 2.Ba6

    1.e4 e5 2.h3

    1.e4 d6 2.Qg4

    1.e4 c5 2.Qh5

    1.e4 d6 2.Qe2

  • #46

    In the ECO system you have A00 Uncommon openings.

    Why not call that the American openings?

  • #47

    1.e4,d6 2.Qg4 can be named the sped queen. 

    1.e4,c5 2.Qh5 can be called the newb variation.

    I call dibs on 1.f4,c5 2.b4 I call it the Bird Wing ^_^ I also call dibs on 1.f4,c5 2.b4,cxb4 3.a3,e5 the Lightning Countergambit because it's such an awesome name.  4...fxe5 5.d6,exd6 6.Bxd6 is a mix between the Wing Gambit and From ^_^

    The great thing about the Bird Wing is after 3.a3,d5 doesn't strike at the e-pawn (but is still a great move, but isn't a clear advantage for black like the regular Wing Gambit)

  • #48
    LoekBergman wrote:

    In the ECO system you have A00 Uncommon openings.

    Why not call that the American openings?

    We don't need all of them but we'll call dibs on the Van Geet it's one of those uncommon openings even better than a certain standard opening listed above (the Bird)

  • #49
    TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
    LoekBergman wrote:

    In the ECO system you have A00 Uncommon openings.

    Why not call that the American openings?

    We don't need all of them but we'll call dibs on the Van Geet it's one of those uncommon openings even better than a certain standard opening listed above (the Bird)

    LOL.

    Nah, I was more thinking about the creepy crawl opening. :-)

    Not the opening from my fellow Dutchman, originating from the city in whose vicinity I am living. It could be renamed to the Rotterdam opening.

  • #50
    LoekBergman wrote:
    TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:
    LoekBergman wrote:

    In the ECO system you have A00 Uncommon openings.

    Why not call that the American openings?

    We don't need all of them but we'll call dibs on the Van Geet it's one of those uncommon openings even better than a certain standard opening listed above (the Bird)

    LOL.

    Nah, I was more thinking about the creepy crawl opening. :-)

    Not the opening from my fellow Dutchman, originating from the city in whose vicinity I am living. It could be renamed to the Rotterdam opening.

    That... is actually a pretty cool name ^_^

  • #51

    To answer the OP, there already is a line called the "American" Opening.  It's not very good:

    1.e4 e5 2.Ne2

  • #52

    I've only ever heard that called the Alapin.

  • #53
    Roeczak wrote:

    By the way, speaking of opeening, there is no chinese game even...

    Here are some opening that have not been named yet...

    1.e4 e5 2.Ba6

    1.e4 e5 2.h3

    1.e4 d6 2.Qg4

    1.e4 c5 2.Qh5

    1.e4 d6 2.Qe2

    Probably because they shouldn't be played by folks aside from Nakamura.

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