Another Weak White System Against the Caro Kann

armstrong789

Secrets of Opening Surprises vol. 14 ch.11 by Alexander Finkel touts an interesting Advance var. system aqgainst the Caro Kann that seems to have become quite trendy recently.1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nd2 e6 5.g4 (see first diagram) Finkel then examines the game Vysochin/Bruchmann, Ohrid 2009 which continued 5...Bg6 6.Ne2 c5 7.h4 h6! 8.Nf4 Bh7 9.dc5 at this point Bruchmann mistakenly played 9...Bc5? which gives white a great game that he went on to win.Finkel gives 9...Nc6!? as an improvement stating the position is unclear.However "Houdini 2 Pro Aquarium" gives 9...Qc7! and not only does white have nothing but black has a pleasant initiative.(see diagram 2)

armstrong789

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When I played in otb tournaments actively the Caro-Kann was my favorite drawing weapon.  I actually won many a game because White would press too hard, frustrated by the impenetrable underground bunker that the Caro-Kann is.

The anti-Sicilians are another example of how White players frustrated by Black's audacity with a move like 1...c5, have tried for nearly 100 years to refute it.

waffllemaster

I tried this out a few time in tournament play, but was plying g4 a move earlier (before Nd2) because I'd seen a game with it like that.  Is it more common to wait and play g4 on the 5th move?

I also looked at this line with my cpu (Rybka at the time) and it was giving me evals of equal.  Maybe it's better to play g4 with the knight still on b1?

armstrong789

In answer to Firebrandx; you have done your homework very well and I am honored to hear your constructive criticism which is 100% correct.Since 9...Qc7 has to my knowledge never been played before it might be called the "Houdini variation".In answer to wafflemaster my research indicates that the Short system 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nf3 still  has teeth with many yet to be explored possibilities, but I predict over the next 10 years its the 2 Knights var. 1.e4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.Nc3 that will g

ive black the most headaches.
armstrong789

In the above 2 diagrams,  the first one is the Short system, very popular in the 80's but still with teeth.The one below is the "Two Knights" var.which I predict is going to create some serious problems for black over the next decade due to past faulty analysis and new improved rehabilitated main lines.

finalunpurez

How abt posting a game with the two knights caro kann??

armstrong789

Fischer played it frequently when he was young.Study his early games.But all the main lines I predict are going to go through some drastic revisions weeding out incorrect analysis and rehabilitating old ideas.In other words old wine in new bottles.There is an excellent book you might want to get entitled: "Starting Out the Caro Kann" by GM Joe Gallagher.But with fact that Vishy Anand told Chessvibes.com on June 10, 2011 that his favorite engine is "Houdini" a revolution in opening theory will surely take the next strongest OTB tournaments by storm.Good luck.

gabrielconroy

I play the two knights system often in bullet games since black tends to get tempted into this line

 



StrategicPlay

Caro-Kann twists the game when I face it. It never goes my way. NEVER.

finalunpurez

if i were to face the two knights i think i might play sth like this. Hoping to transpose back to the Bf5 main line

AnthonyCG

Two knights is tempting to play because you can get the exact same pawn structures from the French as well.

Irontiger

The wrong move in post #10 is 5...d4 ? It basically gives White a king's indian position, colors reversed, with two more tempi (black will eventually play ...c6-c5 when he has played c7-c6, and White has the first move). As the KID hasn't been refuted yet, it can't be wise to give two more moves...

PUTRA_BORNEO77

Laughing

armstrong789

A good game worth studying is Short/Karpov, Monaco 1993.Here are the opening moves: 1.e4 c6 2.Nc3 d5 3.Nf3 Bg4 4.h3 Bf3 5.Qf3 e6 6.d4! white must fight for the center.6...Nf6 7.Bd3 de4 8.Ne4 Ne4 9.Qe4 Nd7 10.c3 Nf6 11.Qe2 Bd6 12.0-0 Bc7 13.Re1 0-0 14.at this point Short played the passive 14.Bd2 which allowed Karpov to soon equalise with ...e5.If Short had instead played 14.a4, or 14.g3 or 14.Be3 he would have enjoyed a pleasant initiative.I will show the diagram after 14.a4!?

armstrong789

armstrong789

I believe the future of chess may be not in obtaining an opening advantage, but in understanding certain positions better than ones opponent.There are several Russian Grandmasters that play the white side of the Giuoco Pianissimo not with any great expectation of obtaining an opening advantage, but to instead reach a position that they understand better than their opponent.Hence, the Giuoco Pianissimo scores well for them.Against the Caro Kann I personally like 1.e4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.ed5 cd5 4.Ne5 a favorite of Morozevich.No opening advantage here, but a contest on understanding the positions reached is what ensues.Thank you for your excellent insights.

armstrong789

finalunpurez
FirebrandX wrote:

That's not quite a 'pleasant initiative' white has there. Black is ultra-solid with no weaknesses. Really the only thing white has going is the bishop pair, but the position is such that they are not an active factor.

'Initiative' generally means you're directing the replies from your opponent such that he doesn't have time to make his own plans. It doesn't apply here because black can either address or completely ignore moves like a4, g3, or Be3. The position is in fact quite equal, regardless of engines giving white +0.20 or whatever insignificant value they give this position.

FYI, GM Shankland assigns black as being 'perfectly fine' after 10.c3 Nf6.

Totally agree with what u said!

gabrielconroy
armstrong789 wrote:

I believe the future of chess may be not in obtaining an opening advantage, but in understanding certain positions better than ones opponent.There are several Russian Grandmasters that play the white side of the Giuoco Pianissimo not with any great expectation of obtaining an opening advantage, but to instead reach a position that they understand better than their opponent.Hence, the Giuoco Pianissimo scores well for them.Against the Caro Kann I personally like 1.e4 c6 2.Nf3 d5 3.ed5 cd5 4.Ne5 a favorite of Morozevich.No opening advantage here, but a contest on understanding the positions reached is what ensues.Thank you for your excellent insights.

Do you have any example games from Moro in that line? I know he likes jumping around with his knights, but I haven't seen him play that particular idea.