Are most of the chess openings refuted in the Top level?

Richard_Hunter

In my observations, there are two main ideas that players adopt in deciding on what opening to use: Either they will simply use the strongest, for obvious reasons, or else they will try an obscure opening which they think their opponent will be unprepared for.

RJFischer960

Well, Caruana just beat Aronian with the caro kann. Guess the caro kann isnt so busted after all

pfren
RJFischer960 έγραψε:

Well, Caruana just beat Aronian with the caro kann. Guess the caro kann isnt so busted after all

 

A rapid game where both sides made several mistakes does not refute, or resurrect, anything at all.

pratikchoudhury

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Colin20G

How many openings are refuted for real? There is always room to deviate from bad lines.

 

Richard_Hunter
pfren wrote:
RJFischer960 έγραψε:

Well, Caruana just beat Aronian with the caro kann. Guess the caro kann isnt so busted after all

 

A rapid game where both sides made several mistakes does not refute, or resurrect, anything at all.

It seems unlikely that the second best player in the world would use an opening that was 'refuted' however.

PJsStudio

The Caro is hardly refuted, the French, Sicilian, Open games and Petroff will never be. It’s the Henning Von scharas, Smith Morra’s, Qd6 Center Counter’s, Albin Counters and sub weird variations that are dying off. Main line theory is main line for a reason, no flaws. 

DeirdreSkye
PJsStudio wrote:

The Caro is hardly refuted, the French, Sicilian, Open games and Petroff will never be. It’s the Henning Von scharas, Smith Morra’s, Qd6 Center Counter’s, Albin Counters and sub weird variations that are dying off. Main line theory is main line for a reason, no flaws. 

Main lines many times had flaws , they improved over the years and they keep improving. Main openings are main because they offer many options. The same time a move is refuted another one proves good and vice versa. New options , new strategies , new ways of play are discovered every year. That is what makes these openings main and not lack of flaws.

    

pfren
PJsStudio έγραψε:

The Caro is hardly refuted, the French, Sicilian, Open games and Petroff will never be. It’s the Henning Von scharas, Smith Morra’s, Qd6 Center Counter’s, Albin Counters and sub weird variations that are dying off. Main line theory is main line for a reason, no flaws. 

I don't know a refutation to any of the above. Probably a significant advantage for white in a VERY complex line of the Schara, and an Albin line which isn't so bad, but rather impractical to play as Black. The other two are just fine.

PJsStudio

Impractical! Yes! and a bit dangerous over the board FOR SuperGM’s. 

 

DedreSky, you like to argue. You’re smart huh? You keep proving it here on the message boards... I’m out.