As a new KIA player, I have achieved great success against the French defense with this attack. However, when I tryed playing the KID using my KIA knowledge, I performed terribly and ended up in positions that easily crumbled and fell.
Is the KIA really played similar to the KID?
Does the KID give many counterattacking chances?
Thanks in advance! =)
-Lukay
PS. I know next to nothing about the KID. It’s a new topic to me.
I have mentioned this multiple times in various threads. The KID and KIA are NOTHING alike.
In the KID, White typically grabs the center, and Black, in most lines, will chip away at the center with ...f5 or else if White has castled, build a wedge and attack the Kingside. For example, 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.e4 d6 5.Nf3 O-O 6.Be2 e5 7.O-O Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 9.Ne1 Nd7 10.Be3 f5 11.f3 f4 12.Bf2 g5
In the KIA, the move f4 is rarely played. Much more common is to keep the pawn on f2 to keep the White King safe as you do not see 3 full files blocked in the KIA, and White advances the h- and possible g-pawns instead. Also, the KIA leads to vastly different structures based on what defense Black plays.
KIA vs Caro - 1.e4 c6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 e5
KIA vs Sicilian - 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d3
KIA vs French - 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2
The second can transpose to the third with an eventual ...d5 rather than ...d6
An example of typical play is 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.Ngf3 c5 5.g3 Nc6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O 8.Re1 b5 9.e5 Nd7 10.Nf1 a5 11.h4 b4 12.N1h2 Ba6 13.Bf4 a4.
Against 1...e5, the KIA is not viewed as being any good, but in the KID, White usually plays e4 and Black later plays ...e5, and Black is fine. Different structure, different idea, and the extra move is useless, and sometimes bad, in certain lines, and hence why they are not the same.
I know.
You said that on a bunch of threads.
You were not the one I was answering, so nobody cares if you already knew.
And so do I.
I don't care about it since I really don't care about KID or KIA.
Right, so let's say your metaphor is a good one. Is there any secret rule that dictates that different fruit are not to be compared with one-another?
However, it's a version of the KIA, as I stated. Why? Because it's a King's Indian formation.
But it really isn't a Kings Indian formation either.
Both sides determine the formation, not 1. That is a double king pawn formation where White happens to fianchetto.
To base a formation on one side would mean that the Queen's Gambit Declined, Catalan, and Nimzo-Indian are all French formations and they are not because of White's e-pawn. Nobody cares that Black pawns are on e6 and d5 in those openings, the formation is determined by both sides!
>>> I think you're getting a bit mixed up. You seem to be assuming that the "King's Indian" is a KID. Or maybe a KIA. So what is it you want? In actuality, historically Benonis and all sorts have been considered to be generically King's Indians. Grunfelds too!